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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio now here's

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so just as we were welcoming God's Makai

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back to the power cast I get a phone

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call and the phone call says

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congratulations you just won some kind

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of cruise on Norwegian lines whatever

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that is now isn't that exciting I want a

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cruise of course it's one of those spam

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calls it's no real thing like that

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do you get telemarketing calls in

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Scotland we absolutely do and there's

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such a pain because they always come

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like 6 p.m. at night when people are you

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know busy getting their dinner and stuff

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I don't know if you can do in the States

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I presume you can over here you can

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choose to go on a preferential list in

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which most of these numbers are banned

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so they kind of screen them out but it

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doesn't screen them out totally and as

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you know the podcast forum proudly says

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that we do not give out people's email

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addresses to other companies but there

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are so many things that we all have to

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sign up for these days online and

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they're all swapping people's details

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around you know I do not like that

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practice at all we have something called

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the Do Not Call Registry which is a part

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of the Federal Trade Commission in the

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United States and there are legal

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penalties for people who violate this

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and are now departed relative used to

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run a company where he would do

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telemarketing so you'd get lists from

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list brokers and in theory they would

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have to before they sold you the list

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run those numbers against the Do Not

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Call Registry and you can download for

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lots of money those call lists the

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problem is as you realize I am on the Do

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Not Call list for three phone numbers

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and I assure you we get one two or three

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calls from every single one because a

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lot of these marketers don't care if

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they're not telling you legitimate merch

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and ice why would they obey the law and

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that's the problem let me ask you

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something before we go on with our

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guests and a little bit later on we'll

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be talking about a book called legend

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tripping the ultimate adventure it's

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nothing about substances

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it's about physically going on trips

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Robert C Robinson will tell us about

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that but I wondered about the word

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tripping when I read the title in any

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case obviously we're talking about

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brexit and Gartland you said you want to

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stay but other people said we want to go

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well that's the interesting thing

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because the first minister kind of like

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Scotland's prime minister recently when

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the Scottish independence referendum

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happened a majority of the electorate in

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Scotland voted to remain within the

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United Kingdom Scotland and so Nicola

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Sturgeon our first military

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she is not like respecting the view of

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the people who voted in the independence

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referendum because they voted to stay

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but with this referendum just because in

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Scotland a majority of people happen to

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vote to the mean to be part of the

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European Union now she's suddenly saying

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oh we should be listening to the people

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of Scotland then you know we voted to

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stay in and it's quite strange that you

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know when it's a decision that she likes

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she's happy to say listen to people of

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Scotland but when it's one she doesn't

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like ie she lost the independence

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referendum she doesn't respect the will

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of the electorate then so it's just

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typical politics though is it very

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typical and then someone who was

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supposed to be a candidate for prime

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minister to replace David Cameron well

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apparently he pulled out and now we're

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having second thoughts I hear and I'm

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gonna be brief about this because we

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don't like to get too much into politics

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and we did we had John Alexander a few

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weeks back and some people love that

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some people said why are you doing this

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but politics gets into everything and

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that is people feel at least some people

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they were misled over what brexit means

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and the people pushing this had this

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website up telling you what great things

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are going to come if you only vote to

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leave and as soon as the vote is

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finished and

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leave gets 52% of the vote the website

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almost completely disappears all the

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promises are gone and now I hear almost

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four million people have signed a

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petition to hold another referendum but

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the more confusing part and you can sort

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this out cogs the referendum is not

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binding they're not forced to act it is

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not the result of it is not doesn't

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automatically become like a signed Act

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of Parliament however they absolutely

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have to go with the result because if

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government start having oh well we'll

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have a second referendum because we

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didn't like the first result and stuff

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then people would just think what is the

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point in ever voting in any referendum

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if when they don't get the result they

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want they just have another one so no

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matter how many people hate this in

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government - whatever the one people who

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wanted to remain they will respect it

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because it would just be a breakdown of

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British democracy if we kind of ignored

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it and just tried again as much as

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people don't like it they'll just have

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to live with it now I'm hearing all

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sorts of stories that they're trying to

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find a way out of it but I also wonder I

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don't understand UK politics at all or

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even USA politics for that matter but

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why couldn't the resolution be set up as

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a binding resolution so there would be

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no question wouldn't it have been more

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productive to tell the people up front

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no this is not a non-binding thing what

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you vote is what you get no no it is a

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totally binding thing it's just people

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are saying yes into the letter of the

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law a referendum result just basically

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is a way to ask people what they think

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she'd do on certain issues and it

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doesn't automatically translate into

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like some signed act of parliament

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however it might as well be because

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there's no way any government in the UK

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can ignore the result because it's very

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very seldom these referendums happen

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only on the biggest biggest of questions

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that maybe governments don't want to

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take the fall for going one way or the

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other

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yes it is kind of an advisory thing it's

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just a thing that governments do to

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listen to the electorate

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feel out there the public pulse if you

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like but there's no way that they can go

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against it because then democracy is

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gone you think well why ever have

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referendums if you just changed the

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results so it may probably isn't legally

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totally binding but it might as well be

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because there's no way they're going to

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ignore the result right but they're

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trying to kick the can down the road so

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Cameron is quitting and he says he won't

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consider it therefore his successor yeah

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and then to make matters worse you have

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those millions of people who said let's

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do over because we were misled a lot of

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people said they didn't realize the

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consequences and they were misled over

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what happened anyone could say that

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after like an election or anything

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anyone could say oh but they can alai do

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you expect politicians to see whatever

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to get their way but if people happen to

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just read one website and listen to that

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without checking other things really

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that's kind of their fault but I don't I

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didn't look at this website and I doubt

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that many people actually were going

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online look at most people don't take

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politics so seriously that there will be

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doing lots and lots of a search online

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they usually already have a formulated

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view or maybe they're 50/50 and gets

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weed but you know maybe some people

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didn't fully understand but really

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that's their fault you know it's a this

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was a big thing and if they didn't

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inform themselves about what this really

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meant then really that's you know that's

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their bad luck I'm afraid they'll just

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have to live with it well just think

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folks if you vote for Donald Trump here

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in the USA as president of the United

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States it's not a joke

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and you can't just say if you don't like

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what he does you're fired

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without going through lots and lots of

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pain just want to mention that I'm not

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gonna ask dogs now but maybe later on

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about what he thinks about the Trump

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phenomenon so Doc's Makai is our guest

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Chris O'Brien on special assignment I

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love that I never go on special

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assignment I'm always here you know

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nobody else is here I'm here I have to

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talk to myself but we're not gonna let

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me talk to myself anymore because I

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understand that's crazy and they put you

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away for that sometimes but we do have a

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great book to look at it's called legend

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tripping the ultimate adventure our

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guest is Robert Robinson

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welcome to the para cast Robert Thank

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You Jean I do notice looking over the

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book that my old good buddy Loren

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Coleman wrote the foreword how did you

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rope Loren into doing that I've been a

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fan of Loren for many year in fact his

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book mysterious America was one of the

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key books got me a legend tripping so I

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mean I met him in a couple times first

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time I ripley's and then I met him

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another time at a convention and I

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Castle II just kept saying Lord I'm

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rewriting my book and I really really

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like you to do the Ford because I mean

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this book probably wouldn't be in

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existence if it hadn't been for your

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book so I think I drove a little crazy

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but I think after they do any kind of

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real end it's alright fine I'll do the

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foreword for it it's the grudging

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forward well like I said you know we

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really good friends I guess that I

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consider him kind of the mentor a lot of

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in a lot of the things that I do with

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the you know the unexplained and stuff

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and like I said of being a big fan of

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his books and stuff it was just it just

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seemed fitting that he should do the

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four for the book so the ultimate

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question is how did you get involved in

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this mess I've been into the fan as you

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will of the unexplained since back in

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the days of that TV show in search of

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you know hosted by Leonard Nimoy and

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I've read books about it and I saw that

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movie The Legend of Boggy Creek which

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like a lot of people scared me and then

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you know I didn't like being scared of

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stuff so I started reading up on it and

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I actually started getting really

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interested in it so I just been a big

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fan of it so you know I did a little bit

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you know as a senior in high school and

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nothing serious that if you see in my

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book but then I joined the military and

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unfortunately you know in the military

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they don't give you a lot of time to go

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out and go do stuff like that so when I

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retired 2003 came down to Florida and I

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hooked up with Biff row and did a couple

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skunk ape expeditions and my wife who's

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a law is into the paranormal she went

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with her on some ghosts some ghosts uh

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paranormal investigations and the thing

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why we came up with the term legend

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tripping is I didn't want to be called a

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paranormal investigator and she didn't

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want to be retired you referred to as a

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monster hunter so we found the term

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legend stripping which kind of you know

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fixed the whole category plus we you

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know we're both members of MUFON and and

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I got kind of anything unexplained or

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anything weird I like to go out and look

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at well certainly this is a way to do it

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so this is a travelogue then very much a

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paranormal travelogue yes it is

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travelogue slash guidebook yes

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absolutely you say guidebook in what

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respect some of the chapters I go

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step-by-step on actually how to do a a

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Bigfoot hunt a ghost hunt a to go out

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look for UFOs to look for you know

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crypto a lake or river cryptids you know

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like champ and some other monsters like

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that and to go look at you know

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do I call legend tripping day trips with

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just to go check out areas that you know

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you can't really stay there all night

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because of various reasons you know but

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you can go out there and check them out

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I see you've got a quite a handy list

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near the start of the book of do's and

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don'ts to do with you know going on

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fishing camping trips

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can you explain Robert actually what

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legend tripping actually means in this

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sense in fact I get asked that a lot

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determined that I came up with legend

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tripping is to go on a journey to look

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for something unexplained like Bigfoot

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haunted houses lost treasure UFO

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sightings stuff to that nature yes so

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people have been doing this you know for

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a long time looking for the Loch Ness

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monster whatever and is it you yourself

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who's coined the term legend tripping no

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no actually the turn alleged trip means

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been around for quite a while in fact

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you know going back a book Tom Sawyer is

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actually considered a legend tripper you

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know some of the books that we've read

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on certain people I've NT Sanderson it

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definitely falls under the cook term of

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legend tripping I don't know the exact

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time it was actually coined

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unfortunately during the 80s it was

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actually given a bad rap as where kids

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were sneaking into buildings you know

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doing supposedly doing ghost hunts but

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they were unfortunately you know they

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were illegally breaking into these

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buildings and getting you know nil the

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vandalism and trespassing so it was kind

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of given ahead a bad rap and then later

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here just kind of I found the term and I

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decided I wanted to bring it out of the

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bat out of the darkness and take it into

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a different direction and make it you

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know a good term I'm a child of the 60s

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so when you say tripping I don't think

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of going on a road trip to look at power

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and almost sites I think of sitting in

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the room or with a bunch of people

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tripping that's just me well yeah I

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understand that and I have in fact I've

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even if you look up the definition of

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tripping there's actually two

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definitions there's one you know having

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a rather really good time on certain

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hallucinating drugs and there's one

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that's just having a great time on a

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trip perhaps some people actually

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combine the two meanings to go looking

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for a ghost or whatever but you know

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doing the actual hallucinogens as well

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can you imagine that in a haunted house

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like it could go one way it could be

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very great or just the worst nightmare

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ever yeah but luckily most people have

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been taking it the right way

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I haven't had anybody coming up to me

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and saying hey what do you think where

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we're going out looking for Bigfoot and

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then tripping on our drugs when we're

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out there luckily they've taken it in a

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good context that I wanted them to do do

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you say do you think there's more like

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you know how there's no farm or ghost

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shows on TV and stuff like that

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do you think this kind of like people

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getting together on a weekend and maybe

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going away for a day or two and just

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basically as almost like a leisure

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pastime going to places to see about

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these legends you know maybe the

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Bridgewater triangle or or whatever do

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you think this is kind of like becoming

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a more common thing almost as a leisure

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pursuit people going to have a look at

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these things look for ghosts look for

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Chompy whatever oh yeah absolutely I

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think with the popularity of certain TV

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shows you know paranormal and you got

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Finding Bigfoot and Destination Truth

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and all that more and more people out

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there are getting more curious about you

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know the world around them and there are

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you know they are going out looking for

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this stuff which is not hard to do you

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know you can go on any website and find

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out you know where the local latest

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Bigfoot sighting was or check you know

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areas where you know there's supposedly

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haunted places and you know and there's

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other things out there you know there's

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a lot of lost treasures out there that

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people still haven't found and you know

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looking for champ or uh you know Nessie

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just to throw that out garden out there

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my mother's Borden and in Edinburgh

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Scotland so I grew up a it parts of

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Britain growing up but that's a good

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pedigree

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we've got a lot more to talk about

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legend tripping and we'll give you some

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guidance on how to do some of this

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traveling yourself and maybe if I stop

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being a hermit I'll try Robert Robinson

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joins us jogs Makai as our guest co-host

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visit GCN live.com today this is dan

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folks with Robert Robinson and when you

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using a video connection and he has this

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kind of half that he wears that looks to

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me tailor-made for somebody who does a

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lot of traveling actually today this

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morning the wife had me out landscaping

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and here in Florida the Sun is just

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brutal so I had to have a head I just

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didn't take it off yet so you know what

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happens here is you spend 20 years in

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the military taking orders yes sir and

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you come home mm-hmm he gives me proper

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respect sir you see you don't want to

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hear what my wife calls me and now when

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you're home you're still taking orders

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from mrs. Robertson that's correct

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but she sounds like a great lady listen

672
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let's ask those serious questions here

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first of all what were the guidelines in

674
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choosing where to go to put this book

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together how did you choose the places

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to go and to cover initially when I

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first wrote the book it seemed to be

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kind of grounded toward the east coast

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and basically in Florida

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and I wasn't happy with the way it first

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came out I contacted actually I was

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friends with David Childress one of the

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hosts on the TV show ancient aliens sure

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David's an old friend of hers yeah and I

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told him kind of my dilemma

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and he said well send me the book I want

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to take a look at it well he contact me

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said I want to put it back out again but

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I want some really drastic changes to it

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it has that I couldn't agree more

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so he kind of tied up a table of

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contents as you were and say this is

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what I kind of like to see the god the

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book go which to be honest with you it

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was like

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godson because my the first time put it

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out I hate to stay at my book lack the

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right direction I wanted it to go and it

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didn't flow when he'd sent me that a

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table of contents and I started going

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it's practically a brand new book than

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what the original book was I put out and

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this time it's it's more organized it

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flows and I mean he had some great ideas

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that I put into it and instead of making

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it just an East Coast book on Florida I

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expanded it all over the United States

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and parts of Canada too that way anybody

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you know from California can pick up and

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say oh okay look the Winchester house I

711
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know where that's at or people over in

712
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Arizona constituents they all look the

713
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the bird house cage okay when it comes a

714
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big foot I mean big foot practically in

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every state with the exception of you

716
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know Hawaii and I don't know if he's

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really been seen in Rhode Island or not

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there's all kinds of stuff in each other

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everybody stake and they're not hard to

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find Robert does this the first boot

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cleave written no actually uh first of

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all was called legend tripping the

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ultimate family adventure and I kind of

724
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geared it toward a way for parents to

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get their kids away from video games and

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get them out doing things because the

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fillable thing was that you know the

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reason kids are into video games is

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because they don't have the adventure

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that movie had as a kid you know like

731
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the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew and three

732
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investigators and all that they don't

733
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have that sense of you know they they

734
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:41,500
have their adventures to video games

735
00:30:45,330 --> 00:30:43,840
well I thought maybe getting them out

736
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:45,340
and taking them on a real adventure to

737
00:30:49,910 --> 00:30:47,230
go look for Bigfoot or go do a haunted

738
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:49,920
house might be a good way to do it but

739
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:53,370
the first book kind of I want to say

740
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when a people pick up that book they're

741
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you know the legend trip and they want

742
00:31:00,960 --> 00:30:59,230
to know how to go look for Bigfoot they

743
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don't want to be told hey I'm a crappy

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parent you know I already know that

745
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that's why I bought your book so we took

746
00:31:10,380 --> 00:31:07,600
all that stuff out and I expanded on

747
00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:10,390
some stuff and I did a lot more because

748
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:11,980
then it's practically a brand-new book

749
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:14,410
from with the original one I took a lot

750
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of chapters out that didn't really need

751
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to be there and I mean there is a small

752
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little section where I talk about hey

753
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parents if you're looking for a good way

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to get your kids out this is a good way

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of doing it you can make it a family a

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thing because I mean I've taken my

757
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family out there in the woods looking

758
00:31:32,090 --> 00:31:30,970
for Bigfoot for me I suppose you to

759
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quite

760
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a fortunate author in terms of

761
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alternative knowledge because you know

762
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not too many people manage to get

763
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someone with the experience in

764
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publishing alternative knowledge books

765
00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:47,370
like David Hodge R Childress he's been

766
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open publishing loads of books on a wide

767
00:31:56,419 --> 00:31:54,360
variety of topics of UFOs ghosts ancient

768
00:31:58,490 --> 00:31:56,429
mysteries and stuff so I suppose his

769
00:32:01,159 --> 00:31:58,500
help was pretty invaluable and shaping

770
00:32:04,220 --> 00:32:01,169
the book that turned out that's

771
00:32:06,260 --> 00:32:04,230
published now David was a godsend I mean

772
00:32:08,779 --> 00:32:06,270
it would have been in this book I had he

773
00:32:11,570 --> 00:32:08,789
you know taking it interested it I can't

774
00:32:14,270 --> 00:32:11,580
begin to thank him for her stepping in

775
00:32:16,820 --> 00:32:14,280
and you know not only republishing it

776
00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:16,830
but you know making the book ten times

777
00:32:20,930 --> 00:32:19,260
better than it was before you know cuz I

778
00:32:23,630 --> 00:32:20,940
mean the first time I put it on it huh

779
00:32:25,850 --> 00:32:23,640
I'm not happy with this you know now I

780
00:32:28,340 --> 00:32:25,860
got a book I'm happy to hand it to

781
00:32:30,140 --> 00:32:28,350
somebody and say hey yes I'm pleased

782
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:30,150
with this book this is what I wanted to

783
00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:32,490
put out the first time all right now

784
00:32:37,820 --> 00:32:34,500
let's prepare trips understand I don't

785
00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:37,830
travel much so I may not be your target

786
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:40,260
audience but let's assume someone does

787
00:32:45,049 --> 00:32:43,110
my son lives in Madrid he loves to

788
00:32:46,669 --> 00:32:45,059
travel and he has an interest in these

789
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:46,679
subjects and maybe he and his friends

790
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:48,690
would want to take a trip like this so

791
00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:52,320
you decide I want to go look for Bigfoot

792
00:32:57,380 --> 00:32:55,710
or check a place where they find UFOs

793
00:33:00,560 --> 00:32:57,390
may be the mysterious Valley whatever

794
00:33:02,180 --> 00:33:00,570
how do you equip yourself for making

795
00:33:04,850 --> 00:33:02,190
trips like this it's not just taking

796
00:33:06,289 --> 00:33:04,860
your camera or your iPhone or something

797
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:06,299
it's got to be something more involved

798
00:33:11,870 --> 00:33:10,080
yeah in fact I am yes quick answer day

799
00:33:14,299 --> 00:33:11,880
yes you do you actually have to sit down

800
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and make yourself on a list for the

801
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:16,200
first one foremost is you got to figure

802
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out what you want to go out and look at

803
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:18,900
do you want to go look for Bigfoot

804
00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:20,730
hypothetically you want to go to look

805
00:33:24,350 --> 00:33:22,620
for Bigfoot get on the internet and find

806
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:24,360
out you know here where there was a

807
00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:26,130
local sign so I'm gonna use Florida as

808
00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:28,380
an example okay I found out there was

809
00:33:32,930 --> 00:33:31,500
some signage down Mike and then of

810
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:32,940
course you know I wish they never go out

811
00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:34,799
there by yourself and I always stress do

812
00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:37,260
not go out there by yourself things can

813
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,200
happen and you put yourself on a list of

814
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stuff together and in my book I came up

815
00:33:45,170 --> 00:33:43,860
with a list of stuff that you should

816
00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:45,180
always take out there

817
00:33:48,740 --> 00:33:47,460
never assumed that it you know you're

818
00:33:51,710 --> 00:33:48,750
just gonna go out there that day with a

819
00:33:53,780 --> 00:33:51,720
camera and a flashlight and nothing's

820
00:33:55,610 --> 00:33:53,790
gonna happen I mean I've seen when I've

821
00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:55,620
been on a couple bit road trips we had

822
00:34:00,200 --> 00:33:57,600
to continually go out and find people

823
00:34:01,610 --> 00:34:00,210
that got lost and when you found him all

824
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:01,620
they did was you know they didn't have

825
00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:02,850
anything some of them were dehydrated

826
00:34:08,570 --> 00:34:05,910
because they've been lost for you know

827
00:34:10,910 --> 00:34:08,580
most of the day so I always say is make

828
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:10,920
a list and always plan for the worst not

829
00:34:13,610 --> 00:34:12,570
saying you have to be a doomsday prepper

830
00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:13,620
or anything like that

831
00:34:17,630 --> 00:34:15,990
but you always gotta assume something

832
00:34:18,770 --> 00:34:17,640
might go wrong you know you might be out

833
00:34:20,870 --> 00:34:18,780
there a little longer than you thought

834
00:34:22,340 --> 00:34:20,880
you you might get lost when I go out

835
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:22,350
there I have a little backpack that I

836
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:24,330
take with me that I have everything that

837
00:34:29,150 --> 00:34:27,330
I need but I also take steps to make

838
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:29,160
sure that things don't happen like in

839
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:30,480
other words when I go out to looking for

840
00:34:34,370 --> 00:34:32,130
a Bigfoot I go to the area during the

841
00:34:36,620 --> 00:34:34,380
daytime and I do a scout out and I check

842
00:34:38,420 --> 00:34:36,630
out the area with my team or the people

843
00:34:39,650 --> 00:34:38,430
I'm taking out there and we go check it

844
00:34:42,110 --> 00:34:39,660
out during the daytime I'm just gonna

845
00:34:43,850 --> 00:34:42,120
get a lay of the land then we come back

846
00:34:45,470 --> 00:34:43,860
and then when we get you know nighttime

847
00:34:47,690 --> 00:34:45,480
we go ahead and assign people certain

848
00:34:49,700 --> 00:34:47,700
areas usually a nighttime I like to keep

849
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:49,710
people on you know main trails and all

850
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:51,210
that stuff here in Florida you know we

851
00:34:54,740 --> 00:34:53,280
got swamps and all that and we got some

852
00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:54,750
pretty nasty critters out here like

853
00:34:59,390 --> 00:34:56,940
alligators and bears and Panthers so I

854
00:35:01,040 --> 00:34:59,400
like to keep them mostly on the roads

855
00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:01,050
let me say well you're not gonna see

856
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:03,060
Bigfoot that way yeah you are I mean if

857
00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:04,290
they're out there and they won't you

858
00:35:08,420 --> 00:35:06,750
know you get lucky enough to see one you

859
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:08,430
know good that you look at the side and

860
00:35:11,390 --> 00:35:09,570
that's where they're seen they're seen

861
00:35:15,350 --> 00:35:11,400
on the road they're seen by rivers or

862
00:35:16,940 --> 00:35:15,360
seen in on pass and you know I make sure

863
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:16,950
all the teams take stuff out there with

864
00:35:18,980 --> 00:35:17,310
them

865
00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:18,990
they have radios or they have their cell

866
00:35:22,490 --> 00:35:20,670
phones and their cell phones you know

867
00:35:23,870 --> 00:35:22,500
got a good charge and they have an

868
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:23,880
understand you know what area they're

869
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:27,090
gonna be at and when I have some usually

870
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,560
I have to take some young adults with me

871
00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:30,560
I give them what they call it a safety

872
00:35:35,540 --> 00:35:32,940
necklace and on it is a whistle or

873
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:35,550
flashlight and a compass so if they

874
00:35:38,750 --> 00:35:37,290
happen to get lost they're told to stay

875
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:38,760
where they're at and start blowing the

876
00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:41,250
whistle and turn the flashlight on and

877
00:35:46,910 --> 00:35:43,020
will usually come over there and get

878
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:46,920
them yeah we live now in a world post

879
00:35:52,460 --> 00:35:49,560
missing for one one you know the books

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of David Pleiades and these days I'm so

881
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:54,390
surprised to anyone would maybe go

882
00:35:58,910 --> 00:35:56,370
hiking in the woods at a national park

883
00:36:01,160 --> 00:35:58,920
alone I've got

884
00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:01,170
I said I'm in fact I think I stay at

885
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:03,720
about four or five times in my book do

886
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:05,610
not go out by yourself

887
00:36:12,380 --> 00:36:08,930
yeah good advice that for anytime

888
00:36:15,110 --> 00:36:12,390
violets on the top of my map - no Robert

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00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:15,120
I noticed that looking down the index of

890
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:17,310
your book I noticed at the end the last

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couple of chapters about hidden treasure

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00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:22,320
is there any mention of the Bear Island

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mystery there no I don't know I mean

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there's so many out there I could I just

895
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:29,880
hit up there's some of the popular ones

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like the Oak Island money pit what he

897
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thought said beg your pardon I think it

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was Oh Oak Island I was actually

899
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referring to oh yeah I mistake let's do

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a break here guys and then we'll

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gentle he does that Cox makai sounding

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preparing for our trip now and you ever

1003
00:41:49,930 --> 00:41:48,470
think here if you go into an area Robert

1004
00:41:51,809 --> 00:41:49,940
you've got Bigfoot

1005
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maybe you've got UFO sightings

1006
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everything came maybe they will decide

1007
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to capture you

1008
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you'll get abducted by a UFO or

1009
00:42:02,380 --> 00:42:00,769
something well I mean there are plenty

1010
00:42:05,049 --> 00:42:02,390
of stories out there of that happening

1011
00:42:06,849 --> 00:42:05,059
you know and as the stories go

1012
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:06,859
you know virtually anybody can be

1013
00:42:10,569 --> 00:42:08,569
abducted by aliens in the matter where

1014
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:10,579
you're at I mean there are some stories

1015
00:42:15,609 --> 00:42:13,130
that do tie in where Bigfoot has been

1016
00:42:17,979 --> 00:42:15,619
seen where there has been some UFO so I

1017
00:42:19,690 --> 00:42:17,989
mean I mean I haven't had any experience

1018
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:19,700
with that and but I you know I always

1019
00:42:23,380 --> 00:42:21,200
keep an open mind for everything that's

1020
00:42:26,849 --> 00:42:23,390
going on out there okay so you're not

1021
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:26,859
really in this case making a decision or

1022
00:42:32,109 --> 00:42:29,569
theory about what these things are this

1023
00:42:32,890 --> 00:42:32,119
is a way to learn more to discover to

1024
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:32,900
have some fun

1025
00:42:41,739 --> 00:42:35,089
you ever think here of starting a legend

1026
00:42:44,170 --> 00:42:41,749
tripping travel agency sound like take

1027
00:42:46,329 --> 00:42:44,180
some money but there are a lot of places

1028
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:46,339
now they're specializing in doing that I

1029
00:42:50,229 --> 00:42:48,529
mean there's a lot of you go into a lot

1030
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:50,239
of these towns like st. Augustine

1031
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:52,160
Florida and Savannah Georgia that

1032
00:42:57,220 --> 00:42:54,410
specialize in and doing ghost hunts

1033
00:42:59,380 --> 00:42:57,230
around the various parts yeah they're

1034
00:43:01,720 --> 00:42:59,390
really cashing in on the part of normal

1035
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:01,730
ghosting a lot of places it's definitely

1036
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:03,170
on the up-and-up and there's definitely

1037
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:06,890
a market for people who would pay to you

1038
00:43:12,430 --> 00:43:09,410
know go and see things and have a guy to

1039
00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:12,440
feel like hmm you know I mean in London

1040
00:43:16,170 --> 00:43:14,329
they do a tour of the Jack the Ripper

1041
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:16,180
you know the Jack the Ripper murders and

1042
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:18,890
I remember doing that when I was a young

1043
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:21,680
kid we did that of course as a young kid

1044
00:43:24,830 --> 00:43:23,490
you know kinda bored

1045
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,840
he didn't have any pictures or anything

1046
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:26,400
you just had a gentleman walking around

1047
00:43:30,530 --> 00:43:28,110
saying this is where Annie Chapman was

1048
00:43:32,030 --> 00:43:30,540
killed right here and you know you know

1049
00:43:35,180 --> 00:43:32,040
I know a Loch Ness you can definitely

1050
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:35,190
get on a day of boat rides that take you

1051
00:43:37,970 --> 00:43:36,720
around the Loch and stuff and I believe

1052
00:43:41,330 --> 00:43:37,980
there's a museum actually I think

1053
00:43:43,130 --> 00:43:41,340
there's two museums up there and over in

1054
00:43:45,140 --> 00:43:43,140
California Bigfoot is definitely

1055
00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:45,150
becoming more of a I mean there's more

1056
00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:47,700
museums now Georgia I've got a book

1057
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:50,550
signing coming up this weekend at the

1058
00:43:56,750 --> 00:43:54,210
expedition Bigfoot Sasquatch Museum a

1059
00:43:59,810 --> 00:43:56,760
pinch area log Georgia which this is

1060
00:44:01,970 --> 00:43:59,820
gonna be my first book signing so I mean

1061
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:01,980
there's plenty of things out there -

1062
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:04,110
definitely stir the imagination in fact

1063
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:05,250
you got Ripley's Believe It or Not

1064
00:44:08,990 --> 00:44:07,290
museums which know if you've ever been

1065
00:44:11,450 --> 00:44:09,000
in any of those they all have a section

1066
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:11,460
on local legends and stuff in there in

1067
00:44:16,940 --> 00:44:14,130
relation to Bigfoot specifically do you

1068
00:44:20,060 --> 00:44:16,950
fall down with it maybe thinking it's a

1069
00:44:22,340 --> 00:44:20,070
flesh-and-blood cryptid or maybe it's

1070
00:44:24,860 --> 00:44:22,350
more of a part of normal entity because

1071
00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:24,870
these kind of sightings where maybe

1072
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:27,300
there's some strange Bigfoot encounter

1073
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:31,890
alongside some UFO encounter and there's

1074
00:44:36,650 --> 00:44:33,690
times where they just seem to disappear

1075
00:44:38,810 --> 00:44:36,660
or you know footprints just stop and

1076
00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:38,820
they you know there's no explanation of

1077
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:40,470
where they've gone and they're so

1078
00:44:44,810 --> 00:44:43,110
difficult to actually find do you have

1079
00:44:47,150 --> 00:44:44,820
any thoughts or not about whether

1080
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:47,160
Bigfoot might actually exist and if so

1081
00:44:52,130 --> 00:44:49,170
is it a paranormal creature or just

1082
00:44:54,020 --> 00:44:52,140
flesh and blood kind of primate well at

1083
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:54,030
this point in time and now again this at

1084
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:56,010
this point in time I'm looking at as a

1085
00:44:59,120 --> 00:44:57,810
flesh-and-blood creature I'll keep my

1086
00:45:00,980 --> 00:44:59,130
guest and I keep an open mind on

1087
00:45:03,860 --> 00:45:00,990
everything going on these animals here

1088
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:03,870
are you know I don't think there's as

1089
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:06,000
many out there that there used to be you

1090
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:07,920
know with everything going on in the on

1091
00:45:12,380 --> 00:45:10,530
the planet I do like I said there are

1092
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:12,390
our stories about these things being

1093
00:45:17,450 --> 00:45:15,300
seen you know around where UFO sightings

1094
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:17,460
have happened as far as a paranormal

1095
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:20,160
thing goes somebody wants was telling me

1096
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:22,110
about these animals are able to make

1097
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:24,210
themselves invisible and that they go

1098
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:26,610
into a vortex into a different dimension

1099
00:45:31,370 --> 00:45:29,250
and my only thinking on that one is if

1100
00:45:33,170 --> 00:45:31,380
this animal has the ability to do that

1101
00:45:35,420 --> 00:45:33,180
and go into different why isn't it

1102
00:45:36,830 --> 00:45:35,430
running the planet versus that humans

1103
00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:36,840
being in charge

1104
00:45:42,530 --> 00:45:39,420
so I mean a lot of questions out there I

1105
00:45:45,020 --> 00:45:42,540
mean I haven't seen anything other than

1106
00:45:47,090 --> 00:45:45,030
physical evidence to the point that this

1107
00:45:49,730 --> 00:45:47,100
animals of flesh and blood but you know

1108
00:45:51,020 --> 00:45:49,740
again I keep an open mind okay I had

1109
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,030
that some people telling me stories

1110
00:45:55,310 --> 00:45:53,280
about where they've seen some weird

1111
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:55,320
lights and landing else and then later

1112
00:46:00,410 --> 00:45:57,450
on they saw Bigfoot so again I keep an

1113
00:46:02,330 --> 00:46:00,420
open mind but as as far as I approach

1114
00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:02,340
going out looking for it I lie I go

1115
00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:04,980
looking for it as a flesh-and-blood

1116
00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:07,500
creature have you had any paranormal

1117
00:46:13,790 --> 00:46:10,710
experiences of any kind yourself UFO

1118
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:13,800
sightings anything oh I wish I had but

1119
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:15,930
no I don't have any UFO my wife has seen

1120
00:46:22,730 --> 00:46:20,730
a you a UFO and my uncle has and but as

1121
00:46:24,830 --> 00:46:22,740
far as UFOs go I mean I've been out to

1122
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:24,840
area 51 when I was then still in the

1123
00:46:28,610 --> 00:46:27,330
military stationed out at Fort Bliss but

1124
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:28,620
we didn't see anything that night we

1125
00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:30,800
went out paranormal-wise

1126
00:46:34,580 --> 00:46:32,670
you know we've been out to a couple

1127
00:46:36,980 --> 00:46:34,590
things that we've had some luck when we

1128
00:46:40,220 --> 00:46:36,990
were filming a I was we did the TV show

1129
00:46:42,350 --> 00:46:40,230
wife's walk back in 2010 and when we

1130
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:42,360
were filming a ghost segment in this

1131
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:44,010
house where it was you know there were

1132
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:45,770
supposedly a guy had committed suicide

1133
00:46:49,460 --> 00:46:48,210
me and the camera guy was sitting there

1134
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:49,470
on the couch just sitting there waiting

1135
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,850
why they were doing something else and

1136
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:52,800
he had a camera set up and the thing

1137
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:54,480
just kind of moved by itself we both

1138
00:46:57,890 --> 00:46:55,920
look at each other and say did you see

1139
00:47:00,830 --> 00:46:57,900
that and we got up and we were trying to

1140
00:47:02,930 --> 00:47:00,840
figure out how it it moved and we were

1141
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:02,940
trying to make it new you know if you

1142
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:04,890
could find a logical explanation why it

1143
00:47:09,110 --> 00:47:07,650
did what it did but you know we couldn't

1144
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:09,120
in fact the camera guy was kind of a

1145
00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:10,800
little like wow I've never seen it do

1146
00:47:15,980 --> 00:47:13,140
that before you know we had one time

1147
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:15,990
with my family at a Jupiter lighthouse

1148
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:18,090
we heard something coming up the steps

1149
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:20,130
and I thought it was my mother-in-law

1150
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:22,050
and we both looked inside and there was

1151
00:47:26,420 --> 00:47:24,570
nothing up in inside there but you could

1152
00:47:28,370 --> 00:47:26,430
hear something walking up the stairs so

1153
00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:28,380
that was kind of why that was kind of

1154
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:31,710
weird I haven't seen a ghost it's not

1155
00:47:35,540 --> 00:47:34,050
for lack of trying and we've hooked up

1156
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:35,550
with a local ghost hunting group out of

1157
00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:37,740
Tampa so we're definitely still out

1158
00:47:43,130 --> 00:47:40,350
there ghost hunting as well as a Bigfoot

1159
00:47:45,650 --> 00:47:43,140
hunting as well an apparition is the one

1160
00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:45,660
paranormal experience I'm pretty sure

1161
00:47:49,970 --> 00:47:47,880
well I did have an experience whether it

1162
00:47:52,849 --> 00:47:49,980
was actually a true apparition

1163
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:52,859
it remains to be seen I hadn't seen

1164
00:47:58,070 --> 00:47:54,810
anything that even remotely close to

1165
00:48:00,740 --> 00:47:58,080
what I would call a UFO until relatively

1166
00:48:03,859 --> 00:48:00,750
recently although it's another one it

1167
00:48:06,620 --> 00:48:03,869
was kind of unclear but I suppose I

1168
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:06,630
wonder I wonder I'm one of those people

1169
00:48:11,870 --> 00:48:09,570
who would just love to have a great UFO

1170
00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:11,880
sighting Chris O'Brien who's not here

1171
00:48:17,060 --> 00:48:14,520
today he's had quite a number and for

1172
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:17,070
instance gene who admits himself he's

1173
00:48:22,010 --> 00:48:19,170
quite a kind of hermit he doesn't go out

1174
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:22,020
too much but he's been into UFOs for a

1175
00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:24,510
fair length of time and he hasn't seen

1176
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:26,670
one either it just seems to be there

1177
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:28,410
sometimes there seems to be a certain

1178
00:48:32,450 --> 00:48:30,930
type of person or personality I don't

1179
00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:32,460
know what but they seemed to have all

1180
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:34,470
the luck with these things and this is

1181
00:48:40,849 --> 00:48:36,570
discounting people who may be frauds

1182
00:48:43,130 --> 00:48:40,859
hoaxers liars and with going to the kind

1183
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:43,140
of purpose yearbook I'm constantly

1184
00:48:50,020 --> 00:48:46,770
thinking myself where in the world could

1185
00:48:54,050 --> 00:48:50,030
I travel to that would give me the best

1186
00:48:56,599 --> 00:48:54,060
chance of experiencing something part of

1187
00:49:00,349 --> 00:48:56,609
normal whether it's you know skinwalker

1188
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:00,359
ranch in Utah or area 51 or a very

1189
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:01,890
haunted house or whatever you know

1190
00:49:08,300 --> 00:49:04,710
because I don't really want to die of

1191
00:49:11,210 --> 00:49:08,310
old age and not have under my belt a

1192
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:11,220
real good head scratch and what happened

1193
00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:13,650
there I suppose it's the same for anyone

1194
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:15,510
interested unless there are so many

1195
00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:17,910
places to choose from where things have

1196
00:49:23,150 --> 00:49:20,550
been reported sometimes for a long time

1197
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:23,160
but you know the frequency still isn't

1198
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:25,200
that often and do you have any thoughts

1199
00:49:30,140 --> 00:49:27,330
yourself as to you know a few ha if

1200
00:49:32,810 --> 00:49:30,150
money was no object where would you go

1201
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:32,820
to maybe have these experiences where do

1202
00:49:35,570 --> 00:49:34,170
you think you I'd like to go there

1203
00:49:38,810 --> 00:49:35,580
because I think there'd be a good chance

1204
00:49:41,210 --> 00:49:38,820
of something happening is there any well

1205
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:41,220
in thing comes to mind as far as a

1206
00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:44,640
Bigfoot goes still you know over in

1207
00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:49,470
Oregon and California still have the

1208
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:50,760
most Bigfoot sightings

1209
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:54,060
you are foe sightings yeah again I you

1210
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:55,890
know fortunately the the government has

1211
00:49:59,660 --> 00:49:58,050
bought up more land at area 51 so John I

1212
00:50:03,180 --> 00:49:59,670
understand you can't even get any more

1213
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:03,190
closer to it than you used to be able to

1214
00:50:05,970 --> 00:50:04,480
I guess I was as far as you opposed

1215
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:05,980
Titian's it would go I would just get on

1216
00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:08,110
the MUFON site and kind of keep track of

1217
00:50:12,180 --> 00:50:09,510
where the sightings have taken place

1218
00:50:13,830 --> 00:50:12,190
they see the frequency of a certain

1219
00:50:17,250 --> 00:50:13,840
areas like you know if we call them

1220
00:50:18,990 --> 00:50:17,260
hotspot area well we'll talk about that

1221
00:50:20,910 --> 00:50:19,000
quite off on the show because as you

1222
00:50:23,730 --> 00:50:20,920
know Chris O'Brien wrote those

1223
00:50:25,830 --> 00:50:23,740
mysterious valley books so we've tied

1224
00:50:28,980 --> 00:50:25,840
into an area where lots of strange stuff

1225
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:28,990
goes on like I said there are hot spots

1226
00:50:33,690 --> 00:50:31,510
out there and I guess not gonna say I

1227
00:50:35,790 --> 00:50:33,700
would you know in my area I would try to

1228
00:50:39,630 --> 00:50:35,800
find the closest area for a hot spot

1229
00:50:41,070 --> 00:50:39,640
which we have a up near the Panhandle

1230
00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:41,080
we've seemed to hit dependent seem to be

1231
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:43,060
an odd near Crystal River there seems to

1232
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:45,250
be a lot of sightings out in there that

1233
00:50:49,050 --> 00:50:47,170
area the town of Astor for some reason

1234
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:49,060
seems to get there's been some a lot of

1235
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:53,200
UFO sightings in that area so as far as

1236
00:50:57,330 --> 00:50:54,970
paranormal goes I would definitely like

1237
00:51:01,020 --> 00:50:57,340
to hit up some of these big places that

1238
00:51:03,830 --> 00:51:01,030
like the you know the these Institute's

1239
00:51:07,050 --> 00:51:03,840
that these broken down these shut down

1240
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:07,060
Eastern State Penitentiary

1241
00:51:11,010 --> 00:51:09,550
we've had only problem with that one

1242
00:51:14,850 --> 00:51:11,020
that's kind of turned into it more of a

1243
00:51:16,860 --> 00:51:14,860
tourist attraction yeah as I think we've

1244
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:16,870
missed our window on that one I mean it

1245
00:51:19,860 --> 00:51:18,130
would have been good to go on that way

1246
00:51:23,970 --> 00:51:19,870
look in that one before it actually got

1247
00:51:25,860 --> 00:51:23,980
famous hey guys we gotta do a break here

1248
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:25,870
so we'll continue on the other side

1249
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:30,130
we're talking about legend tripping the

1250
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1251
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:33,310
there's probably going to be a legend

1252
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tripping too in the future we'll ask

1253
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:37,870
Robert Robinson about that because that

1254
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:39,490
sounds like this is just a starting

1255
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:41,920
point with Gene and God's Makai you're

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1309
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welcome back to the para cast the gold

1310
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1311
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:24,030
here's Jane Steinberg the ghost

1312
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:27,570
whisperer we have Robert Robinson author

1313
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:29,970
of legend tripper the ultimate adventure

1314
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:31,710
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1315
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Coleman

1316
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so Robert now you get your appetite wet

1317
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here with this book is there gonna be a

1318
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legend tripping - I like to think so I

1319
00:54:44,690 --> 00:54:42,360
like to think there's definitely gonna

1320
00:54:46,940 --> 00:54:44,700
be a part - right now my my brain is

1321
00:54:48,860 --> 00:54:46,950
kind of fried Ramola putting everything

1322
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:48,870
together and I I wrote up a couple of

1323
00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:51,690
articles for some magazines but I'm in

1324
00:54:55,490 --> 00:54:53,250
the process of getting you know get my

1325
00:54:57,620 --> 00:54:55,500
batteries recharged again and I'm out

1326
00:54:59,150 --> 00:54:57,630
there I'm always looking I'm starting to

1327
00:55:00,440 --> 00:54:59,160
think maybe in the next legend tripping

1328
00:55:01,850 --> 00:55:00,450
book might be more of an international

1329
00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:01,860
book where I'm gonna start

1330
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:04,260
pushing toward you know places in Europe

1331
00:55:08,540 --> 00:55:07,050
and maybe places down in South America

1332
00:55:10,910 --> 00:55:08,550
that might be interesting to do some

1333
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:10,920
legend tripping down there I've been to

1334
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:13,290
Ecuador and a fortune I didn't really

1335
00:55:16,730 --> 00:55:14,880
you know they weren't very receptive

1336
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:16,740
when I was asking about certain legends

1337
00:55:20,300 --> 00:55:17,910
down there and they the kind of

1338
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:20,310
superstitious people down there but

1339
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:22,770
Europe is definitely a hotbed of all

1340
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:24,510
kinds of neat things going on over there

1341
00:55:28,730 --> 00:55:27,570
if I was to tell you what would part to

1342
00:55:31,820 --> 00:55:28,740
it it'd probably be more of an

1343
00:55:33,830 --> 00:55:31,830
international edition well I know I know

1344
00:55:37,580 --> 00:55:33,840
a place that you could definitely cover

1345
00:55:39,890 --> 00:55:37,590
that hasn't become too popular and you

1346
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:39,900
know turned into some kind of tourist

1347
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:42,810
hotspot but there's a smoke there's a

1348
00:55:47,540 --> 00:55:45,810
forest in Romania I can find the name of

1349
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:47,550
this place but it's quite difficult to

1350
00:55:51,380 --> 00:55:49,200
pronounce and I'd have to look at them

1351
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:51,390
up but anyway there's this forest and

1352
00:55:56,420 --> 00:55:53,370
kind of in the middle of this forest

1353
00:55:59,540 --> 00:55:56,430
there's a natural clearing as in for

1354
00:56:04,160 --> 00:55:59,550
some reason the trees don't grow in this

1355
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:04,170
maybe added 20 meter diameter clearing

1356
00:56:09,890 --> 00:56:07,410
and the whole forest is quite weird

1357
00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:09,900
anyway very strange shape trees and

1358
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:13,380
there are various legends about this

1359
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:15,930
clearing and forests going back quite a

1360
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:19,710
time in which for instance some young

1361
00:56:25,579 --> 00:56:22,170
boy he was herding goats or whatever was

1362
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,589
lost in the forest and just disappeared

1363
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:27,839
thought he was dead whatever and five

1364
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:31,200
years later he suddenly appears looking

1365
00:56:35,809 --> 00:56:33,530
the same age wearing the same clothes

1366
00:56:37,970 --> 00:56:35,819
almost like he's kind of been in kind of

1367
00:56:40,250 --> 00:56:37,980
some Time Warp no explanation of where

1368
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:40,260
he's been but anyway the the the TV

1369
00:56:44,990 --> 00:56:42,480
program Ghost Adventures when they were

1370
00:56:46,849 --> 00:56:45,000
in Romania they actually went to this

1371
00:56:51,260 --> 00:56:46,859
clearing in the middle of the night and

1372
00:56:54,349 --> 00:56:51,270
they did film some very strange bright

1373
00:56:56,059 --> 00:56:54,359
red orb that was kind of floating about

1374
00:56:58,819 --> 00:56:56,069
hair tight when it this is when it

1375
00:57:01,880 --> 00:56:58,829
should be pitch-black no light pollution

1376
00:57:03,950 --> 00:57:01,890
at all and there's a university

1377
00:57:05,809 --> 00:57:03,960
chemistry professor or something he's

1378
00:57:09,049 --> 00:57:05,819
been researching this area because it's

1379
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:09,059
been the site of UFO you know people

1380
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:11,490
witnessing UFOs and all sorts of very

1381
00:57:16,790 --> 00:57:13,650
strange stuff going back for for decades

1382
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:16,800
and decades and probably because it's

1383
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:20,010
off even off the beaten track in Romania

1384
00:57:25,250 --> 00:57:22,530
but it seems to be kind of it's it's

1385
00:57:28,099 --> 00:57:25,260
untouched pristine something just

1386
00:57:29,930 --> 00:57:28,109
absolutely right for exploring and I've

1387
00:57:31,609 --> 00:57:29,940
been to Romania I myself I happened to

1388
00:57:34,370 --> 00:57:31,619
go there visiting my brother when he was

1389
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:34,380
working there a few years back but it

1390
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,720
was unaware of this place then how'd I

1391
00:57:41,359 --> 00:57:38,160
know and I definitely would have made

1392
00:57:44,030 --> 00:57:41,369
the trip but yeah probably fee even just

1393
00:57:46,819 --> 00:57:44,040
search on Google just type in Romania

1394
00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:46,829
strange or haunted forest or something

1395
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:49,049
it'll come up and it there's so much

1396
00:57:52,910 --> 00:57:51,210
stuff associated with already on the net

1397
00:57:56,809 --> 00:57:52,920
it looks just such a fascinating place

1398
00:57:58,760 --> 00:57:56,819
not to definitely look that up yeah you

1399
00:58:00,920 --> 00:57:58,770
got my intrigued on that one I think I

1400
00:58:03,770 --> 00:58:00,930
think I do know it but I want to look

1401
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:03,780
into it more now yeah do you know who

1402
00:58:08,359 --> 00:58:07,440
Ted Phillips's head Phillips no that

1403
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:08,369
name doesn't ring a bell

1404
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:11,130
he's a UFO researcher he's been on this

1405
00:58:17,180 --> 00:58:13,530
show a couple of times in his kind of

1406
00:58:19,579 --> 00:58:17,190
youth he was kind of a an assistant to J

1407
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:19,589
Allen Hynek at like at the air the

1408
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:23,040
Socorro saucer well egg ship UFO he was

1409
00:58:27,620 --> 00:58:25,170
kind of there at the time and he still

1410
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:27,630
he's always concentrated on physical

1411
00:58:32,570 --> 00:58:31,170
trace cases he's been investigating a

1412
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:32,580
place that he's new

1413
00:58:37,730 --> 00:58:35,040
Marle the Marley Woods I believe it's in

1414
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:37,740
Missouri or something and he managed to

1415
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:41,250
keep the location secret as a promise to

1416
00:58:45,740 --> 00:58:42,930
the locals who didn't want it to be

1417
00:58:47,690 --> 00:58:45,750
overrun with ghost hunters whatever well

1418
00:58:52,010 --> 00:58:47,700
I think I think the locations now leaked

1419
00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:52,020
out gene has it oh yes it has and I all

1420
00:58:57,050 --> 00:58:55,200
record Missouri it is but we posted it

1421
00:58:59,690 --> 00:58:57,060
in our forums at forum baths to para

1422
00:59:01,610 --> 00:58:59,700
cast icon so you can look it up so it

1423
00:59:04,220 --> 00:59:01,620
seems to be another one of these kind of

1424
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:04,230
areas it's not just UFOs there are a

1425
00:59:09,860 --> 00:59:06,090
number of strange things going on on

1426
00:59:11,930 --> 00:59:09,870
this quite specific small location but I

1427
00:59:14,180 --> 00:59:11,940
think Ted Phillips last time he was on

1428
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:14,190
the show he may have cryptically said

1429
00:59:18,790 --> 00:59:16,170
that there may be one or two other

1430
00:59:22,550 --> 00:59:18,800
places in the United States that are as

1431
00:59:26,270 --> 00:59:22,560
interesting as the Uintah Basin and

1432
00:59:29,620 --> 00:59:26,280
Marley woods and they're just there does

1433
00:59:32,780 --> 00:59:29,630
seem to be these spots in the world

1434
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:32,790
mm-hmm where there seems to be you know

1435
00:59:36,980 --> 00:59:35,250
who somebody was it John keel that

1436
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:36,990
called them window areas but they're

1437
00:59:41,900 --> 00:59:39,570
definitely places where these things

1438
00:59:45,230 --> 00:59:41,910
seem to happen more often for some

1439
00:59:47,540 --> 00:59:45,240
reason is a concentrated nexus of part

1440
00:59:49,820 --> 00:59:47,550
of normal happenings if you like and who

1441
00:59:52,580 --> 00:59:49,830
knows why but these are the things that

1442
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:52,590
fascinate me the most and that's what I

1443
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:55,890
want to see well here in Florida we have

1444
01:00:00,080 --> 00:59:58,290
a town of Astor Florida and it seems

1445
01:00:03,050 --> 01:00:00,090
like every weird thing in the world

1446
01:00:06,050 --> 01:00:03,060
every kind of legend happens in master

1447
01:00:09,710 --> 01:00:06,060
you got you got your skunk ape sightings

1448
01:00:13,780 --> 01:00:09,720
you got the there is a a river monster

1449
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:13,790
up there by the because it allowed a

1450
01:00:20,540 --> 01:00:18,960
river goes right through after they've

1451
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:20,550
had UFO sightings you've had two strange

1452
01:00:25,310 --> 01:00:22,530
disappearances

1453
01:00:27,290 --> 01:00:25,320
there's even Gino's The Legend of some

1454
01:00:29,090 --> 01:00:27,300
pirate gold hidden out there somewhere

1455
01:00:30,590 --> 01:00:29,100
and if you ever come and look at the

1456
01:00:33,170 --> 01:00:30,600
town I mean it's a small quaint little

1457
01:00:34,730 --> 01:00:33,180
town and a lot of the people there you

1458
01:00:36,170 --> 01:00:34,740
ask them about things they're pretty

1459
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,180
open about it some of them you know

1460
01:00:39,650 --> 01:00:38,160
knows that there's some I've never ever

1461
01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:39,660
you know they know about the Bigfoot

1462
01:00:44,060 --> 01:00:42,240
sightings and stuff and they you know

1463
01:00:45,350 --> 01:00:44,070
they know about the the river monster

1464
01:00:48,380 --> 01:00:45,360
but you know

1465
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:48,390
they've had a lighthouse out there

1466
01:00:52,670 --> 01:00:49,890
that's supposedly you know it's been

1467
01:00:55,010 --> 01:00:52,680
haunting so I mean I always say that you

1468
01:00:57,890 --> 01:00:55,020
know Astor Florida is one of you know if

1469
01:01:01,720 --> 01:00:57,900
the Florida's uh area for a hotbed for

1470
01:01:04,130 --> 01:01:01,730
mysterious unexplained things to happen

1471
01:01:07,610 --> 01:01:04,140
and how's it being like on the

1472
01:01:09,710 --> 01:01:07,620
paranormal map for quite a timers that

1473
01:01:12,170 --> 01:01:09,720
kind of quite a new thing that people

1474
01:01:15,260 --> 01:01:12,180
are becoming aware of this place I did

1475
01:01:16,790 --> 01:01:15,270
find it one time on on one website but I

1476
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:16,800
did write about it in my book because

1477
01:01:19,550 --> 01:01:18,000
I've wanted to bring a little bit more

1478
01:01:22,130 --> 01:01:19,560
attention cuz I don't think a lot of

1479
01:01:25,580 --> 01:01:22,140
people knew that Astor was one of the

1480
01:01:30,010 --> 01:01:25,590
you know those areas around the you know

1481
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:30,020
the world where weird things happen so

1482
01:01:36,290 --> 01:01:32,610
would you consider yourself uh kind of

1483
01:01:39,020 --> 01:01:36,300
fourteen oh I'm a big fat Charles Fort

1484
01:01:41,930 --> 01:01:39,030
fan I own his books I'm in reading them

1485
01:01:45,350 --> 01:01:41,940
uh you know yes definitely definitely a

1486
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:45,360
big fan of his you read all the books

1487
01:01:49,790 --> 01:01:48,240
from charles fort well I've read uh I

1488
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:49,800
think I brought book of the Damned that

1489
01:01:54,860 --> 01:01:51,450
was definitely one of them and was it

1490
01:01:56,810 --> 01:01:54,870
there's low book of the Damned I think

1491
01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:56,820
it's just those two books in it and I

1492
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:58,530
have his biography you know they're

1493
01:02:02,330 --> 01:01:59,760
actually I think there are four books

1494
01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:02,340
from Charles Fort Wayne when did that

1495
01:02:05,860 --> 01:02:05,040
charles fort died or what the twenties

1496
01:02:08,690 --> 01:02:05,870
or thirties

1497
01:02:11,660 --> 01:02:08,700
yes as there has there been anyone who's

1498
01:02:14,570 --> 01:02:11,670
kind of a taking up the baton if you

1499
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:14,580
like since Charles four to done exactly

1500
01:02:19,250 --> 01:02:16,770
what he's done literally sat in

1501
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:19,260
libraries and gone through old

1502
01:02:25,010 --> 01:02:21,930
newspapers and what have you to

1503
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:25,020
searching for stories of the weird and

1504
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:27,930
wonderful did anyone else kind of take

1505
01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:31,440
you know take on the the mantle after he

1506
01:02:34,370 --> 01:02:32,160
was gone

1507
01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:34,380
well I know Robert L Ripley did the

1508
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:36,240
Ripley uh didn't necessarily go with it

1509
01:02:40,460 --> 01:02:38,490
you know he did unexplained stuff but he

1510
01:02:43,940 --> 01:02:40,470
also went you know we just weird things

1511
01:02:48,110 --> 01:02:43,950
had happened so I mean in a way Ripley's

1512
01:02:49,970 --> 01:02:48,120
did but again Ripley's wasn't just it

1513
01:02:52,580 --> 01:02:49,980
wasn't just the unexplained and stuff

1514
01:02:54,770 --> 01:02:52,590
anything weird he would he would write

1515
01:02:56,750 --> 01:02:54,780
about can you expand on him a bit

1516
01:02:58,910 --> 01:02:56,760
because I've heard of Ripley's Believe

1517
01:03:01,009 --> 01:02:58,920
It or Not you know these kind of

1518
01:03:03,170 --> 01:03:01,019
I don't know shops or places you can go

1519
01:03:06,460 --> 01:03:03,180
and see all this stuff is how did he

1520
01:03:09,019 --> 01:03:06,470
come up out and did he actually start

1521
01:03:11,390 --> 01:03:09,029
how did he can I make his name was he

1522
01:03:14,210 --> 01:03:11,400
just writing books or how did he become

1523
01:03:16,460 --> 01:03:14,220
kind of this kind of host old name well

1524
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:16,470
he actually started out just writing

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01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:19,200
sports columns or writing of sports

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illustrations and in the 1920s and one

1527
01:03:28,970 --> 01:03:26,190
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filler for one of the newspapers and he

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01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:30,839
had all these little odd things that he

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1643
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Cox macabre joining us a bit of an

1644
01:08:30,170 --> 01:08:27,510
absence where he kind of gets got away

1645
01:08:32,690 --> 01:08:30,180
from it all which you sometimes have to

1646
01:08:35,390 --> 01:08:32,700
do in this nutty field we have Robert

1647
01:08:38,420 --> 01:08:35,400
Robinson I'm going to mention just very

1648
01:08:41,180 --> 01:08:38,430
briefly about Charles Ford he wrote as I

1649
01:08:44,329 --> 01:08:41,190
said for books okay you can buy the

1650
01:08:46,730 --> 01:08:44,339
complete books of charles fort as a

1651
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single hardcover volume for about twenty

1652
01:08:53,870 --> 01:08:48,450
or twenty-five dollars from amazon

1653
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:53,880
it is book of the Damned lo wild talents

1654
01:08:58,700 --> 01:08:57,210
and new lands charles fort so now i just

1655
01:09:00,680 --> 01:08:58,710
sold some books for charles fort and

1656
01:09:03,050 --> 01:09:00,690
he's been dead so there's no body to

1657
01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:03,060
claim the royalties yes sir

1658
01:09:08,570 --> 01:09:06,350
hey I was looking here at a couple of

1659
01:09:10,460 --> 01:09:08,580
interesting chapters you wrote Robert

1660
01:09:13,460 --> 01:09:10,470
and we've gotten into the discussions

1661
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:13,470
about breakaway civilizations and recent

1662
01:09:20,270 --> 01:09:16,290
episodes of the para cast and also the

1663
01:09:22,370 --> 01:09:20,280
legends of a Hollow Earth yes so I don't

1664
01:09:24,380 --> 01:09:22,380
think you're advocating taking a balloon

1665
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:24,390
to go to the hole with the North Pole

1666
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:27,690
are you no no unfortunately uh that

1667
01:09:35,930 --> 01:09:32,970
would be a I'm sure you guys have

1668
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:35,940
noticed that if you just go to youtube

1669
01:09:42,440 --> 01:09:38,330
these days there seems to be this

1670
01:09:44,420 --> 01:09:42,450
preponderance of videos about a flat

1671
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:44,430
earth there just seems to be this

1672
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:47,130
resurgence of people believing there's

1673
01:09:52,039 --> 01:09:49,440
some great conspiracy that the earth is

1674
01:09:53,750 --> 01:09:52,049
not a sphere it's all a lie and I can't

1675
01:09:56,150 --> 01:09:53,760
believe it there are loads and loads of

1676
01:09:59,840 --> 01:09:56,160
videos where people are really seriously

1677
01:10:01,460 --> 01:09:59,850
arguing that the earth is flat and I was

1678
01:10:03,980 --> 01:10:01,470
not aware of this just a couple of years

1679
01:10:06,050 --> 01:10:03,990
ago and it seems to be quite a recent

1680
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:06,060
thing if you guys noticed this as well I

1681
01:10:11,780 --> 01:10:07,890
thought they were voting for Donald

1682
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:14,460
Robert I wasn't aware of this I realized

1683
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:16,810
there are people who sometimes do

1684
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:18,970
something for fun be involved in a wacky

1685
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:21,489
belief system for fun just to enjoy

1686
01:10:25,260 --> 01:10:23,650
themselves not for a serious purpose

1687
01:10:27,210 --> 01:10:25,270
Robert do you ever hear of this thing

1688
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:27,220
well I mean I've had people come out

1689
01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:29,110
with me that that don't believe in it

1690
01:10:32,820 --> 01:10:30,400
but they just want to kind of see what

1691
01:10:35,070 --> 01:10:32,830
we is we do but about the Hollow Earth

1692
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:35,080
let's get back to the Hollow Earth well

1693
01:10:39,810 --> 01:10:36,640
we have a place down here in Florida

1694
01:10:43,020 --> 01:10:39,820
there was a cult and their whole belief

1695
01:10:45,660 --> 01:10:43,030
was that the earth was not only home

1696
01:10:48,030 --> 01:10:45,670
well it was flat they had a whole area

1697
01:10:50,430 --> 01:10:48,040
down there now it's a national park and

1698
01:10:52,740 --> 01:10:50,440
he has a device where he kind of tries

1699
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:52,750
to prove that if the earth was round why

1700
01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:54,370
would you know there's this thing work

1701
01:10:58,740 --> 01:10:56,710
and forget the name the contraption that

1702
01:11:00,450 --> 01:10:58,750
he had and you can see it when you go

1703
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:00,460
down to this museum but their whole

1704
01:11:04,890 --> 01:11:02,890
belief was that the earth was flat and

1705
01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:04,900
he had a whole cult that lived down

1706
01:11:08,910 --> 01:11:06,880
there on this on this I think I called a

1707
01:11:10,860 --> 01:11:08,920
compound because it was way back in the

1708
01:11:12,570 --> 01:11:10,870
twenty didn't kind of have that then and

1709
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:12,580
everybody could leave and go as they

1710
01:11:16,590 --> 01:11:14,050
wanted they weren't you know forced to

1711
01:11:17,940 --> 01:11:16,600
stay there but as far as this people

1712
01:11:19,290 --> 01:11:17,950
still believe into today I'm sure

1713
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:19,300
there's there's always somebody out

1714
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:21,850
there believing all kinds of stuff again

1715
01:11:27,390 --> 01:11:24,010
not to criticize anybody I keep an open

1716
01:11:29,070 --> 01:11:27,400
mind and I know I believe it's round but

1717
01:11:31,170 --> 01:11:29,080
that's just me what are you telling

1718
01:11:33,390 --> 01:11:31,180
people to do there other than look in

1719
01:11:36,300 --> 01:11:33,400
caves and hopefully not get taken by the

1720
01:11:37,410 --> 01:11:36,310
D rose and T rose well I told mom you

1721
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:37,420
know there knows a way they're gonna get

1722
01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:39,520
up to the north pole or the South Pole

1723
01:11:43,020 --> 01:11:40,450
where they're you know supposedly

1724
01:11:44,970 --> 01:11:43,030
Admiral Burke flew in and took video or

1725
01:11:47,010 --> 01:11:44,980
film I can't see a video because it was

1726
01:11:49,380 --> 01:11:47,020
film back then that you got Mount Shasta

1727
01:11:52,170 --> 01:11:49,390
up in California where it if supposedly

1728
01:11:54,330 --> 01:11:52,180
is a you know an entrance to the this

1729
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:54,340
place and you know you got the reptilian

1730
01:11:59,040 --> 01:11:56,410
people that live up there well that

1731
01:12:00,960 --> 01:11:59,050
would be a hard one like I said that to

1732
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:00,970
me will really have to be some you know

1733
01:12:05,790 --> 01:12:03,010
some people really are really serious

1734
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:05,800
into doing it because I mean anytime you

1735
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:08,050
go into caves that there's a risk you

1736
01:12:12,150 --> 01:12:09,730
know there's a there's a strong risk

1737
01:12:14,460 --> 01:12:12,160
going into caves and I always kind of

1738
01:12:17,090 --> 01:12:14,470
almost shy about trail telling people to

1739
01:12:19,950 --> 01:12:17,100
go do dangerous things do you have a

1740
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:19,960
lawyer's letter and this book warning

1741
01:12:24,220 --> 01:12:22,610
people off well I'd be listen

1742
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:24,230
listen to it I'm very careful about how

1743
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:27,170
I tell people to do things you know as

1744
01:12:30,340 --> 01:12:28,730
far as the Hollow Earth things I don't

1745
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:30,350
think I went into much detail on that

1746
01:12:34,450 --> 01:12:32,570
one other than you know got Mount Shasta

1747
01:12:36,340 --> 01:12:34,460
and stuff like that where well you know

1748
01:12:38,530 --> 01:12:36,350
and I say it whenever you're out there

1749
01:12:40,930 --> 01:12:38,540
hiking the trails or anything make sure

1750
01:12:42,220 --> 01:12:40,940
that you've got somebody with you you

1751
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:42,230
know know whatever put yourself in a

1752
01:12:46,330 --> 01:12:43,610
dangerous situation when you're out

1753
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:46,340
there always makes sense to have at

1754
01:12:50,260 --> 01:12:47,840
least one other person because at the

1755
01:12:53,260 --> 01:12:50,270
end of the day you can be quite far away

1756
01:12:55,570 --> 01:12:53,270
from your car or civilization and if you

1757
01:12:58,419 --> 01:12:55,580
you know stumble and break your leg

1758
01:13:00,609 --> 01:12:58,429
badly you know you've got maybe no one

1759
01:13:02,890 --> 01:13:00,619
else to go for help you might be out of

1760
01:13:06,430 --> 01:13:02,900
cell phone coverage and it just makes

1761
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:06,440
absolute sense not to go you know away

1762
01:13:12,129 --> 01:13:09,679
from people and on your own that it

1763
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:12,139
should be just a golden rule do it was

1764
01:13:15,820 --> 01:13:13,850
someone else and tell people where

1765
01:13:18,399 --> 01:13:15,830
you're going and when you're expected

1766
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:18,409
back so they can raise the alarm if you

1767
01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:21,530
don't return one time Bigfoot hunting up

1768
01:13:24,700 --> 01:13:22,699
in the East you know you got a lot of

1769
01:13:26,290 --> 01:13:24,710
clips and stuff like that I said I put

1770
01:13:28,419 --> 01:13:26,300
it in the book I said do not go walking

1771
01:13:30,129 --> 01:13:28,429
around out at clips and stuff at night

1772
01:13:32,620 --> 01:13:30,139
it's extremely dangerous and don't

1773
01:13:34,149 --> 01:13:32,630
you'll find it you know it's good to be

1774
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:34,159
ambitious enough to find Bigfoot but

1775
01:13:37,660 --> 01:13:36,110
don't put yourself in an unnecessary or

1776
01:13:39,490 --> 01:13:37,670
a dangerous situation where you end up

1777
01:13:41,530 --> 01:13:39,500
getting yourself seriously hurt or

1778
01:13:45,010 --> 01:13:41,540
somebody gets killed just to find

1779
01:13:48,250 --> 01:13:45,020
Bigfoot spread today on BBC News website

1780
01:13:52,810 --> 01:13:48,260
about I think it was a a lone cyclist I

1781
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:52,820
think in a Montana National Park sure if

1782
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:53,810
he was eaten but he was definitely

1783
01:13:58,540 --> 01:13:55,760
attacked and killed by the bear which

1784
01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:58,550
and you know in fact unfortunately I say

1785
01:14:02,140 --> 01:14:00,560
that now there's more bear sightings and

1786
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:02,150
stuff out there now so you got to be

1787
01:14:07,330 --> 01:14:04,130
careful if you get wind if there's a

1788
01:14:09,550 --> 01:14:07,340
panther or a bear an area to leave don't

1789
01:14:12,189 --> 01:14:09,560
sit there and just try to well maybe I

1790
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:12,199
won't see him well yeah we see well see

1791
01:14:16,570 --> 01:14:14,690
this footage of people on national parks

1792
01:14:19,330 --> 01:14:16,580
and they're like almost going right up

1793
01:14:21,010 --> 01:14:19,340
to the brown or black bears feeding them

1794
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:21,020
and stuff and you know it's great to

1795
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:24,110
look but any bear even if the ones that

1796
01:14:28,899 --> 01:14:26,570
are usually ok with humans you know if

1797
01:14:32,020 --> 01:14:28,909
they wanted to they've got the strength

1798
01:14:34,209 --> 01:14:32,030
the power to you know to over and some

1799
01:14:35,659 --> 01:14:34,219
people just think that I don't know

1800
01:14:37,909 --> 01:14:35,669
they're in a mindset where

1801
01:14:40,189 --> 01:14:37,919
they're used to maybe seeing some large

1802
01:14:41,870 --> 01:14:40,199
dangerous animals up close but maybe in

1803
01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:41,880
a zoo or something and when they're out

1804
01:14:47,810 --> 01:14:44,159
in the wild on a state park or something

1805
01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:47,820
in a in in the United States and and the

1806
01:14:52,939 --> 01:14:50,249
Ark the same way but there are no bars

1807
01:14:55,549 --> 01:14:52,949
or cages in between them and you know

1808
01:14:58,850 --> 01:14:55,559
some people really do they don't seem to

1809
01:15:00,350 --> 01:14:58,860
appreciate the risks of wild animals and

1810
01:15:03,589 --> 01:15:00,360
doesn't matter how many times you tell

1811
01:15:06,620 --> 01:15:03,599
some people people just walk into some

1812
01:15:09,259 --> 01:15:06,630
quite nasty incidents and they don't

1813
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:09,269
seem to have any awareness of you know

1814
01:15:13,279 --> 01:15:11,010
the natural world and what the pitfalls

1815
01:15:14,929 --> 01:15:13,289
are well yeah like I said a lot of

1816
01:15:16,189 --> 01:15:14,939
people just kind of get you know they

1817
01:15:18,319 --> 01:15:16,199
get a little excited watching some of

1818
01:15:21,049 --> 01:15:18,329
these shows and they don't really sit

1819
01:15:22,790 --> 01:15:21,059
there and do the you know make a get

1820
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:22,800
themselves totally prepared when they go

1821
01:15:26,179 --> 01:15:24,570
out there in fact I'll be honest with

1822
01:15:27,979 --> 01:15:26,189
you I take bear mace with me whenever I

1823
01:15:30,739 --> 01:15:27,989
go out there the reason I take that

1824
01:15:33,049 --> 01:15:30,749
versus a hand gun is that I no bear mace

1825
01:15:35,389 --> 01:15:33,059
is definitely gonna gonna do a lot more

1826
01:15:37,639 --> 01:15:35,399
to stop these animals plus it works on

1827
01:15:39,319 --> 01:15:37,649
Panthers and other animals too first is

1828
01:15:41,179 --> 01:15:39,329
a a handgun and you know unfortunately

1829
01:15:43,129 --> 01:15:41,189
if you get enough strain into the wrong

1830
01:15:45,139 --> 01:15:43,139
area and get picked up by the fish in

1831
01:15:47,029 --> 01:15:45,149
wildlife and you've got a handgun you're

1832
01:15:48,529 --> 01:15:47,039
gonna get nailed for pochi even though

1833
01:15:50,359 --> 01:15:48,539
you know you just you know I just got it

1834
01:15:51,709 --> 01:15:50,369
for self-defense to me I feel a lot

1835
01:15:53,299 --> 01:15:51,719
better with bear mace because like I

1836
01:15:55,339 --> 01:15:53,309
said it works on everything out there

1837
01:15:58,279 --> 01:15:55,349
heck you can even spray it in front of a

1838
01:16:00,049 --> 01:15:58,289
snake it'll make a snake go away what

1839
01:16:02,270 --> 01:16:00,059
can arrange does it have like how far

1840
01:16:04,399 --> 01:16:02,280
away could you be an Oxley effectively

1841
01:16:05,629 --> 01:16:04,409
hit it with this spray when you use bear

1842
01:16:07,939 --> 01:16:05,639
makes you're not actually supposed to

1843
01:16:09,319 --> 01:16:07,949
spray it at the bear I mean I know it's

1844
01:16:11,449 --> 01:16:09,329
easier said but you're supposed to shut

1845
01:16:12,830 --> 01:16:11,459
down in front of you you spray it in

1846
01:16:14,839 --> 01:16:12,840
front of you and the animal gets a whiff

1847
01:16:17,089 --> 01:16:14,849
of it in a deters them they find us

1848
01:16:18,859 --> 01:16:17,099
pretty far my son unfortunately squirted

1849
01:16:21,109 --> 01:16:18,869
me one day we were out there with it and

1850
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:21,119
he had it let him carry it and

1851
01:16:25,129 --> 01:16:23,130
unfortunately I made a noise and you

1852
01:16:26,959 --> 01:16:25,139
know he thought it was something and he

1853
01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:26,969
end up spraying the stuff all over the

1854
01:16:30,589 --> 01:16:29,070
place including myself and I end up

1855
01:16:33,259 --> 01:16:30,599
having a strip most of my clothes off

1856
01:16:35,389 --> 01:16:33,269
because it just burns too I mean in fact

1857
01:16:37,489 --> 01:16:35,399
the left red marks all over me it burns

1858
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:37,499
so doggone bad got more to come with

1859
01:16:48,690 --> 01:16:41,010
Robert Robinson and GOx McKay and gene

1860
01:16:48,700 --> 01:16:53,510
thank you for listening to GCN

1861
01:17:00,060 --> 01:16:58,799
visit GP and live.com today Pete

1862
01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:00,070
non-attorney spokesperson Adam Pulaski

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[Music]

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during this reason you're listening to

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the parrot head so cogs you had some

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more questions of Robert let's continue

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with those right now yeah Robert so does

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beer mace is is it a stronger version of

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the mace that is made for for human use

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yes it's a lot in fact I think they on

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the can says like 10 times stronger like

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I said if you ever get it on you it will

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leave a it leaves burn marks on you I

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mean I'm not saying ii agree it was just

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more first to be read burns and stuff on

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it plus you know it's breathing it in

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and you know it's all around you and and

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i mean it comes out pretty how would i

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say it's almost like your score now my

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water hose you know high speed water

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hose that's how it comes out it gets all

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over the place up there and it's not

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cheap it runs when I bought my can it

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costs about roughly on an average about

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fifty dollars I've seen a little bit

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cheaper now so it's not cheap but if did

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you know and it is something good to

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have with you when you're out there cuz

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oh yeah it gives you a little sense of

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security when you're out there knowing

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that there are other animals out there

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you know and I hope I never run into a

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pissed-off Bigfoot where I have to use

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it on him you know I definitely know it

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works on another thing uh animals out

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there is it the same as pepper spray or

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totally different it is a type of pepper

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it's not amaz'd it's a type of I mean

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it's not a what is it cops akin or

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something that yes there's a type of

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pepper because like I said it did it was

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all burning and stuff yeah there's a

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there's a scale to measure how hot

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peppers and things are and you know you

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can buy some crazy hot chili sauce and

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whatever but they the hottest ones are

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yeah even like a microscopic amount is

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just unbelievable what it does and ya

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can't I can't imagine getting not in the

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eyes luckily I didn't get it in my eye

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in fact it's kind of ironic that I

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didn't but I mean I've been breathing it

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in

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on me like I said I had enough it got

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onto my clothes and I end up having to

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take my clothes off hook up to my you

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know my my boxers and in fact we end up

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taking my clothes and sticking it in a

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plastic bag you know because it you know

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it was all over them and you know my son

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you know was never allowed to carry the

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bear mace after that and what people

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forget as well as even there maybe they

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just touch something that's been sprayed

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and they forget they've got a bit in

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their hands and then they maybe rub

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their eyes forgetting that there's a bit

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on their hands and you get that kind of

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accidental transfer oh yes you will with

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that stuff just come off you just like

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you can just wash it off with soap and

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water is it eye when you breathe it in

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though it takes a while for it to kind

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of go to impact your nose runs in your

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eyes water takes okay you just kind of

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have to walk it off till it stops as far

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as um yeah you can wash it off your

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hands and stuff like that in it I do

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remember you know we went over and I

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started throwing water on me we went

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over to a water source I think we there

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was a creek or something next to over

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the Jeep was parked and we were throwing

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water on me but it still burned for a

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while I don't remember the pain going

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away anytime you know instantaneously

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and I you know I didn't really get any

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on my hands but I was you know

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definitely making sure I keep my hands

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clean I presume having done time in the

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military that you've done that done the

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tests you know where you you go in our

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chamber and they release the tear gas

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and you have to change the canisters on

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your respirator yeah I've done that too

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I managed to kind of escape most of it

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but I think I did experience it in my

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eyes but not enough to but just just

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that tiny bit of exposure was enough to

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let me know that if I walked into a

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cloud of just released tear gas it you

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know but you're not really in shape to

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tackle anyone in a physical way because

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yeah I can see how it works back no I

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can't imagine what bear mace must be

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like that teargas a man were ten times

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worse where your skin's burning

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all over yeah I'm listening here because

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now listening to the dangers I don't

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want to go anywhere well like I said I

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just you know that was my fault I gave

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it to my son and I probably should have

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stressed to him a little be a little bit

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more you know to be a little bit

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cautious about using it I mean when I

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hand it to him he was ready to use it I

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mean he had it in front of him he was

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just dying for something to step out

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like because he wanted to see how it

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worked and that was my first mistake

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right there I said he's gonna end up

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squirt me any day so that was my you

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know if I said I keep it with me I keep

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it in my backpack and it has a safety a

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little um own safety mechanism on it so

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you can't it can't accidentally go off

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inside your your backpack and all that I

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guess they didn't it's just you know

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it's not that you know if you just kind

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of know the hazards of you of it you

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know it's not that bad and you know it's

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to me it's a lot safer having that than

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having a pistol or a rifle out there

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which I'm sure some people would

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disagree with me on that one in your

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travels have you had anything especially

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frightening happened to you we've had

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some fun up there uh gentleman by the

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name of Stacy Brown

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he runs the Sasquatch hunters uh and I'm

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gonna Bigfoot hunting with him I'm near

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the Tallahassee area just recently we

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went up there we were at this family's

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house and we had something strike the

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side of the house and lady had said that

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she had you know that she had some

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Bigfoot on her property and that they

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you know for some reason they it's

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01:27:02,590 --> 01:26:59,960
starting to hit the side of the house

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and that night we had something hit you

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know woke up my wife and she hooked me

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01:27:07,870 --> 01:27:05,480
up and said hey something just hit the

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side of this Houston my wife's got a bit

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is not a avid Bigfoot believer she keeps

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01:27:14,050 --> 01:27:12,770
an open mind but you know she'll tell

2128
01:27:15,940 --> 01:27:14,060
you she hasn't seen anything but

2129
01:27:17,860 --> 01:27:15,950
whatever was that the house kind of

2130
01:27:20,830 --> 01:27:17,870
rattled her that night there seems to be

2131
01:27:23,470 --> 01:27:20,840
a thing that Bigfoot does many people

2132
01:27:26,590 --> 01:27:23,480
report maybe during the night that they

2133
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:26,600
will just Pelt a cop in or whatever with

2134
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:29,450
lots of rocks it's almost as if you know

2135
01:27:33,700 --> 01:27:31,370
they it's almost like they they do want

2136
01:27:35,380 --> 01:27:33,710
to scare humans off get away from my

2137
01:27:38,380 --> 01:27:35,390
territory and you know they obviously

2138
01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:38,390
would have their physical power to

2139
01:27:44,050 --> 01:27:41,450
you know just annihilate humans but it

2140
01:27:46,450 --> 01:27:44,060
seems that they do choose to just try

2141
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:46,460
and scare you off they never seem to

2142
01:27:50,650 --> 01:27:49,280
take it to the next level they but you

2143
01:27:53,530 --> 01:27:50,660
know they start there and they're also

2144
01:27:56,140 --> 01:27:53,540
it just seems to be that they this

2145
01:27:59,440 --> 01:27:56,150
rock-throwing which is well reported in

2146
01:28:01,360 --> 01:27:59,450
people hunting Bigfoot they it just it's

2147
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:01,370
another thing that just allows them to

2148
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:04,250
kind of show they're sure that intent

2149
01:28:09,340 --> 01:28:06,770
their muscle but not necessarily become

2150
01:28:11,740 --> 01:28:09,350
visible to humans is something that they

2151
01:28:13,870 --> 01:28:11,750
seem they seem to be by all reports I've

2152
01:28:17,050 --> 01:28:13,880
ever heard they seem to be very accurate

2153
01:28:19,510 --> 01:28:17,060
with their stone-throwing as well I've

2154
01:28:20,830 --> 01:28:19,520
never had that any rock thorn incidence

2155
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:20,840
at me thank goodness

2156
01:28:25,540 --> 01:28:22,730
I mean I've talked to some people

2157
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:25,550
especially over in Texas where these

2158
01:28:30,010 --> 01:28:27,170
they're the Bigfoot over there seem to

2159
01:28:32,140 --> 01:28:30,020
be a lot more aggressive than some of

2160
01:28:34,780 --> 01:28:32,150
the Bigfoot you know over on the on the

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01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:34,790
west coast or down here in Florida of

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01:28:41,290 --> 01:28:38,570
course then again we would that be in

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01:28:41,950 --> 01:28:41,300
East Texas you know heavily wooded Texas

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01:28:45,490 --> 01:28:41,960
yes

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01:28:48,700 --> 01:28:45,500
he's text yeah the Arkansas louia a

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01:28:51,820 --> 01:28:48,710
Louisiana border area up there yeah I

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01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:51,830
mean I remember going to actually a

2168
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:54,290
rifle range with our friend I was over

2169
01:28:58,690 --> 01:28:56,330
and I was working in Texas but remember

2170
01:29:02,260 --> 01:28:58,700
and in Houston and I just couldn't

2171
01:29:06,430 --> 01:29:02,270
believe that I there's no forest in the

2172
01:29:09,490 --> 01:29:06,440
UK that is even remotely as dense as the

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01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:09,500
woodland around Houston you just looks

2174
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:11,450
to me like even with a big machete you

2175
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:13,730
couldn't go anywhere because it's so

2176
01:29:20,380 --> 01:29:17,330
dense so thick and strong the the the

2177
01:29:23,050 --> 01:29:20,390
you know the undergrowth it I think

2178
01:29:25,330 --> 01:29:23,060
there must be huge areas of woodland in

2179
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:25,340
East Texas Louisiana wherever that you

2180
01:29:30,010 --> 01:29:27,770
know very very few humans have ever been

2181
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:30,020
to just because the the going is so

2182
01:29:33,730 --> 01:29:32,570
difficult to get anywhere let's away

2183
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:33,740
down here in Florida you got the

2184
01:29:38,590 --> 01:29:36,170
Everglades and you've got there's like

2185
01:29:40,060 --> 01:29:38,600
um we've got the Green Swamp that's not

2186
01:29:42,250 --> 01:29:40,070
a little located too far from where I'm

2187
01:29:43,690 --> 01:29:42,260
at and there's parts of that that you

2188
01:29:45,460 --> 01:29:43,700
know that the Sun though the Rangers

2189
01:29:47,770 --> 01:29:45,470
told me that no humans have been back in

2190
01:29:49,540 --> 01:29:47,780
there so I mean there's definitely areas

2191
01:29:52,609 --> 01:29:49,550
out there there's definitely areas for

2192
01:29:55,220 --> 01:29:52,619
these animals to be you know stay hidden

2193
01:29:57,410 --> 01:29:55,230
yeah I don't think people I don't think

2194
01:29:59,629 --> 01:29:57,420
a lot of people I appreciate the kind of

2195
01:30:01,580 --> 01:29:59,639
people that would say or you know with

2196
01:30:03,709 --> 01:30:01,590
the amount the number of humans going

2197
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:03,719
out hiking the woods and stuff you know

2198
01:30:07,220 --> 01:30:05,250
there's no way they could stay hidden

2199
01:30:09,169 --> 01:30:07,230
forever we should be bumping into them

2200
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:09,179
more often but really when you look at

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01:30:14,300 --> 01:30:12,330
the Pacific Northwest and if you really

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01:30:18,470 --> 01:30:14,310
you know zoom in to Google Maps and

2203
01:30:21,379 --> 01:30:18,480
there are just enormous huge miles upon

2204
01:30:24,379 --> 01:30:21,389
miles of very dense forests with you

2205
01:30:26,540 --> 01:30:24,389
know miles from any look road the

2206
01:30:29,959 --> 01:30:26,550
stuffin there is actually more than

2207
01:30:32,839 --> 01:30:29,969
enough space for an intelligent creature

2208
01:30:35,390 --> 01:30:32,849
who wishes to remain hidden there's

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01:30:37,910 --> 01:30:35,400
there's more than enough space we have

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[Music]

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this is Micah Hanks to the grey alien

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cast the gold standard of paranormal

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so we continue we have GOx Makai as

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guest co-host Krishna Brian is off out

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there on special assignment how special

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I have no idea but on special assignment

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he'll be back with after the power cast

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this week and if you're on to listen to

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lots of other features we're doing some

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legend tripping with Robert Robinson and

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we're going just about everywhere

2335
01:36:02,390 --> 01:35:59,430
everywhere trying to see what's going on

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01:36:04,970 --> 01:36:02,400
number 10 of course we're also used to

2337
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number 9 number 9 but this is number 10

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01:36:13,490 --> 01:36:09,120
the extra-terrestrial legend trip take

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01:36:15,530 --> 01:36:13,500
us on that trip where do we go well go

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01:36:17,660 --> 01:36:15,540
to the internet find out where you know

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01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:17,670
what is it you want to go look at you

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01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:19,770
want to go look at a famous crash site

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01:36:24,770 --> 01:36:22,530
like you know for ah Roswell which

2344
01:36:26,060 --> 01:36:24,780
fortunately now that I got the guy

2345
01:36:27,440 --> 01:36:26,070
doesn't let you go back there anymore

2346
01:36:29,350 --> 01:36:27,450
for what I was told

2347
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:29,360
and by the way just to mention this

2348
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:32,370
we've had Kevin Randall on the power

2349
01:36:38,870 --> 01:36:34,530
cast over the years and lately he's been

2350
01:36:41,780 --> 01:36:38,880
more skeptical of Roswell oh okay check

2351
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:41,790
a different perspective his blog and

2352
01:36:47,210 --> 01:36:44,730
he's got a new book Roswell in the 21st

2353
01:36:49,430 --> 01:36:47,220
century and he still believes there was

2354
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:49,440
something real that crashed there that

2355
01:36:53,330 --> 01:36:51,930
might be et but some of the other

2356
01:36:53,930 --> 01:36:53,340
stories he doesn't go for it much

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01:36:56,860 --> 01:36:53,940
anymore

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in any case let's go on that trip for

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01:37:03,500 --> 01:36:59,940
chapter 10 all right well you go look

2360
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:03,510
for a an area like I say check for you

2361
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:07,170
for a oka say a UFO hotspot area you're

2362
01:37:10,370 --> 01:37:08,850
going out to the area again I always

2363
01:37:11,390 --> 01:37:10,380
sail with people make sure you take all

2364
01:37:14,480 --> 01:37:11,400
your stuff because you're gonna be

2365
01:37:18,410 --> 01:37:14,490
staying out all night most UFO you

2366
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:18,420
should plan to stay out all night you

2367
01:37:22,250 --> 01:37:19,770
know so you're gonna need some camping

2368
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:22,260
gear and all that if you get into an

2369
01:37:25,910 --> 01:37:24,330
area where it's a private property go

2370
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:25,920
make sure you ask and if you can go out

2371
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:26,970
there and tell them that you're not

2372
01:37:31,609 --> 01:37:30,330
gonna you know do a Woodstock and damage

2373
01:37:33,770 --> 01:37:31,619
the area

2374
01:37:36,049 --> 01:37:33,780
and or if you find an area where you can

2375
01:37:38,359 --> 01:37:36,059
go observe the where these UFOs have

2376
01:37:40,489 --> 01:37:38,369
been sighted you know and a campgrounds

2377
01:37:42,500 --> 01:37:40,499
and stuff is really great you go out to

2378
01:37:44,989 --> 01:37:42,510
the area you know you stood up your area

2379
01:37:46,790 --> 01:37:44,999
up there you get binoculars with you you

2380
01:37:48,799 --> 01:37:46,800
get on night-vision goggles you get

2381
01:37:51,020 --> 01:37:48,809
yourself some thermal imager if you got

2382
01:37:54,619 --> 01:37:51,030
one and you go out to various locations

2383
01:37:56,779 --> 01:37:54,629
I I when I went on one way I went with a

2384
01:37:58,969 --> 01:37:56,789
group of people we broke into teams and

2385
01:38:02,750 --> 01:37:58,979
we went to various locations around this

2386
01:38:04,219 --> 01:38:02,760
l1 area and we all had radios but we end

2387
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:04,229
up using our cell phones because the

2388
01:38:08,750 --> 01:38:07,110
radio batteries end up going out but we

2389
01:38:10,549 --> 01:38:08,760
just go out there and just kind of keep

2390
01:38:12,500 --> 01:38:10,559
an eye on it and we get to have a couple

2391
01:38:14,449 --> 01:38:12,510
guys say they saw something that they

2392
01:38:15,889 --> 01:38:14,459
thought you know was kind of kind of

2393
01:38:19,270 --> 01:38:15,899
weird but unfortunately I could said I

2394
01:38:22,189 --> 01:38:19,280
did I didn't see anything that night and

2395
01:38:25,310 --> 01:38:22,199
you know don't be discouraged if you

2396
01:38:27,379 --> 01:38:25,320
don't see something it does happen but

2397
01:38:30,020 --> 01:38:27,389
you know persistence pays off in this

2398
01:38:33,649 --> 01:38:30,030
field you know there's people like you

2399
01:38:35,359 --> 01:38:33,659
know with UFO hunting you know if you

2400
01:38:37,609 --> 01:38:35,369
keep at it and you're gonna eventually

2401
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:37,619
see one and that's what me and my wife

2402
01:38:43,279 --> 01:38:41,610
we've got wind of a place up up near the

2403
01:38:44,869 --> 01:38:43,289
Panhandle near Crystal River we're gonna

2404
01:38:47,629 --> 01:38:44,879
go check out that area here soon enough

2405
01:38:50,659 --> 01:38:47,639
and right now it's a little hot we may

2406
01:38:52,009 --> 01:38:50,669
wait for it to cool off and of course

2407
01:38:54,889 --> 01:38:52,019
that's another thing check the time

2408
01:38:56,929 --> 01:38:54,899
areas when these things are seen which

2409
01:38:58,850 --> 01:38:56,939
within a context to terrestrial there

2410
01:39:02,629 --> 01:38:58,860
really is no timeframe they're just

2411
01:39:04,729 --> 01:39:02,639
they're seen and go out there and sit

2412
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:04,739
out there get yourself comfortable start

2413
01:39:08,119 --> 01:39:06,449
looking around and then enjoy yourself

2414
01:39:11,799 --> 01:39:08,129
and maybe you'll get lucky enough to see

2415
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:11,809
one if you do get a team that season and

2416
01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:13,530
actively sees it

2417
01:39:18,919 --> 01:39:16,169
he or she will radio in and say hey I've

2418
01:39:20,359 --> 01:39:18,929
got it over here you have visual on it

2419
01:39:21,949 --> 01:39:20,369
if not you know you may want to move to

2420
01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:21,959
a different location where you can also

2421
01:39:27,049 --> 01:39:24,239
get visual on what it is these people

2422
01:39:28,939 --> 01:39:27,059
are seeing and you know start recording

2423
01:39:31,699 --> 01:39:28,949
and always record whenever you're a

2424
01:39:33,049 --> 01:39:31,709
legend trip always record because you

2425
01:39:34,369 --> 01:39:33,059
never know what's gonna happen on what

2426
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:34,379
you're gonna see and you can always go

2427
01:39:40,359 --> 01:39:36,449
back later on and look at it but always

2428
01:39:43,399 --> 01:39:40,369
record and maybe get lucky and see one

2429
01:39:44,450 --> 01:39:43,409
do you think Robert that places these

2430
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:44,460
days like

2431
01:39:50,450 --> 01:39:46,770
you know small towns cities whatever

2432
01:39:53,930 --> 01:39:50,460
they seem to be exploiting their

2433
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:53,940
paranormal legends in history a bit more

2434
01:39:59,330 --> 01:39:56,130
than may have happened in the past like

2435
01:40:01,310 --> 01:39:59,340
for instance where supposedly Betty and

2436
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:01,320
Barney Hill had their abduction

2437
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:03,090
experience or certainly where they

2438
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:05,610
stopped the car and had a look at a UFO

2439
01:40:11,540 --> 01:40:09,210
you know the local town council or

2440
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:11,550
whatever's put up you know a nice fancy

2441
01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:14,010
road sign saying this is the spot where

2442
01:40:18,770 --> 01:40:16,800
such and such happened and that that's

2443
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:18,780
the only example I can think just no but

2444
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:20,610
I know there are more places around the

2445
01:40:27,979 --> 01:40:24,210
u.s. that are now kind of cashing in a

2446
01:40:31,550 --> 01:40:27,989
little on locations that have you know

2447
01:40:34,220 --> 01:40:31,560
been noted in the past for a various a

2448
01:40:36,380 --> 01:40:34,230
certain event happening just like I

2449
01:40:40,610 --> 01:40:36,390
think there's an incremental move

2450
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:40,620
towards say normal news coverage to just

2451
01:40:45,470 --> 01:40:43,530
being a little bit less sarcastic about

2452
01:40:47,900 --> 01:40:45,480
UFO sightings as they may have been

2453
01:40:49,180 --> 01:40:47,910
20-30 years ago do you think we're

2454
01:40:51,260 --> 01:40:49,190
moving in that direction

2455
01:40:54,440 --> 01:40:51,270
bottom line I think the general public

2456
01:40:59,300 --> 01:40:54,450
does believe that would there's you know

2457
01:41:01,190 --> 01:40:59,310
other you other what is it you know

2458
01:41:04,220 --> 01:41:01,200
there's other clear there's other you

2459
01:41:06,860 --> 01:41:04,230
know life sources out there and other

2460
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:06,870
planets do I believe that we've been

2461
01:41:11,209 --> 01:41:08,850
visited I do believe there are you know

2462
01:41:13,190 --> 01:41:11,219
just in my own personal opinion I think

2463
01:41:16,430 --> 01:41:13,200
that we are based on some of the things

2464
01:41:18,380 --> 01:41:16,440
I've read I think we've had that some of

2465
01:41:22,820 --> 01:41:18,390
the UFO sightings may actually beam from

2466
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:22,830
a an extraterrestrial type aircraft UFO

2467
01:41:27,620 --> 01:41:25,530
abductions I I'm I do the the Bene

2468
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:27,630
Barney Hill one does stand up to that a

2469
01:41:31,700 --> 01:41:29,610
lot of the investigation techniques by a

2470
01:41:33,740 --> 01:41:31,710
lot of experts there was an incident

2471
01:41:36,220 --> 01:41:33,750
with two gentlemen down in Mississippi

2472
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:36,230
that were picked up and taken into a

2473
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:39,600
nazca gula pat thank you and I remember

2474
01:41:42,620 --> 01:41:41,010
I was living in Mississippi at the time

2475
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:42,630
my dad was finishing up his last year of

2476
01:41:45,860 --> 01:41:44,130
college and I remember when that

2477
01:41:47,750 --> 01:41:45,870
incident happened so I thought that was

2478
01:41:49,250 --> 01:41:47,760
kind of an interesting one and if I

2479
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:49,260
understand correctly both those

2480
01:41:54,500 --> 01:41:50,730
gentlemen pass their uh their

2481
01:41:56,780 --> 01:41:54,510
lie-detector tests on that one so but

2482
01:41:57,820 --> 01:41:56,790
yeah you know if there's you know as far

2483
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:57,830
as abductions

2484
01:42:02,590 --> 01:42:00,080
you know do I believe all of them no I

2485
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:02,600
mean I've met a couple people who I can

2486
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:04,010
say I don't believe their story

2487
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:05,930
especially after you know certain

2488
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:08,810
questioning that and but you know there

2489
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:11,690
are some people that I I do believe

2490
01:42:15,130 --> 01:42:13,250
there's some you know definitely some

2491
01:42:17,380 --> 01:42:15,140
mal I mean some truth to their story

2492
01:42:19,150 --> 01:42:17,390
about abductions briefly Robert the

2493
01:42:21,700 --> 01:42:19,160
people you question were you were

2494
01:42:27,790 --> 01:42:21,710
skeptical in what way did they respond

2495
01:42:29,290 --> 01:42:27,800
that kind of lit a fire yeah I when I

2496
01:42:30,910 --> 01:42:29,300
was the army I was a military policeman

2497
01:42:32,910 --> 01:42:30,920
so I was used to questioning people

2498
01:42:35,740 --> 01:42:32,920
witnesses and I always try to keep a

2499
01:42:38,050 --> 01:42:35,750
straight face a non-emotional face when

2500
01:42:40,180 --> 01:42:38,060
I questioned people even it I think

2501
01:42:42,070 --> 01:42:40,190
they're not telling me the truth what I

2502
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:42,080
like to do is I like to get them to tell

2503
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:45,170
a story three times and that's usually

2504
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:48,410
when I can center and then poke holes at

2505
01:42:52,210 --> 01:42:49,210
their story

2506
01:42:53,740 --> 01:42:52,220
you know because a person and I'm going

2507
01:42:55,210 --> 01:42:53,750
to go back to a Bigfoot sighting I have

2508
01:42:58,270 --> 01:42:55,220
to come to my you know what I found

2509
01:42:59,920 --> 01:42:58,280
somebody that I saw Phil who's seen

2510
01:43:02,170 --> 01:42:59,930
Bigfoot it's a very very emotional

2511
01:43:03,940 --> 01:43:02,180
experience for them and if some of the

2512
01:43:06,790 --> 01:43:03,950
females started crying on me I mean

2513
01:43:08,470 --> 01:43:06,800
there was just you know it just seems

2514
01:43:11,230 --> 01:43:08,480
like it was a very powerful thing that

2515
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:11,240
and they no doubt in their mind on what

2516
01:43:16,230 --> 01:43:13,850
they saw and I think the same thing when

2517
01:43:19,060 --> 01:43:16,240
it comes to to UFO sightings or

2518
01:43:21,460 --> 01:43:19,070
abductions there is no doubt in their

2519
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:21,470
mind and they get very emotional when

2520
01:43:26,830 --> 01:43:23,690
they talk about it now one of the things

2521
01:43:30,660 --> 01:43:26,840
we've done in exploring UFO abductions

2522
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:30,670
is that some people definitely had

2523
01:43:36,370 --> 01:43:33,410
something happened to them they cannot

2524
01:43:40,060 --> 01:43:36,380
explain but sleep paralysis could be one

2525
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:40,070
of the issues sometimes we worry here

2526
01:43:43,990 --> 01:43:41,930
whether certain UFO abduction

2527
01:43:47,230 --> 01:43:44,000
researchers are being less than diligent

2528
01:43:49,570 --> 01:43:47,240
in performing analysis maybe they're not

2529
01:43:52,180 --> 01:43:49,580
qualified to do hypnotic regression and

2530
01:43:54,910 --> 01:43:52,190
they cause people to remember things

2531
01:43:56,740 --> 01:43:54,920
that maybe didn't happen this is not to

2532
01:43:59,050 --> 01:43:56,750
say that a phenomenon is not occurring

2533
01:44:01,990 --> 01:43:59,060
but it's really something with a lot of

2534
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:02,000
nuances there and I think many of us

2535
01:44:07,030 --> 01:44:04,610
have a problem with the supposed numbers

2536
01:44:09,940 --> 01:44:07,040
according to some researchers where

2537
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:09,950
literally maybe even talking more than a

2538
01:44:14,270 --> 01:44:11,130
million people

2539
01:44:16,340 --> 01:44:14,280
in the US alone if their numbers are to

2540
01:44:19,459 --> 01:44:16,350
be believed and I think many of us who

2541
01:44:22,370 --> 01:44:19,469
who do except maybe the abductions

2542
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:22,380
happen and that UFOs are a reality those

2543
01:44:30,110 --> 01:44:26,330
numbers are just very hard to swallow

2544
01:44:32,959 --> 01:44:30,120
well you know like I said I had one

2545
01:44:35,419 --> 01:44:32,969
gentleman I interviewed and the one

2546
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:35,429
talkin come to find out that he he only

2547
01:44:39,770 --> 01:44:38,010
gets two hours of sleep a night well

2548
01:44:41,390 --> 01:44:39,780
I'll tell you what if I only got two

2549
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:41,400
hours sleep at night and I've had

2550
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:44,250
different stresses of cause problems if

2551
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:47,010
I had only two hours sleep at night and

2552
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:49,050
I realized everybody's different I'd be

2553
01:44:53,540 --> 01:44:51,330
seeing a lot of strange things yeah for

2554
01:44:55,820 --> 01:44:53,550
a few weeks of that and possibly I'd see

2555
01:44:58,729 --> 01:44:55,830
things that weren't really there I think

2556
01:45:01,640 --> 01:44:58,739
part of it is that things about the UFO

2557
01:45:04,700 --> 01:45:01,650
abduction experience do not imply the

2558
01:45:07,820 --> 01:45:04,710
physical interaction with a living

2559
01:45:09,530 --> 01:45:07,830
creature like going through walls things

2560
01:45:12,260 --> 01:45:09,540
like that things that seem like you're

2561
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:12,270
in a dream state as supposed to be

2562
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:14,610
physically awake and the question a lot

2563
01:45:20,149 --> 01:45:17,850
of us have is if you had a video camera

2564
01:45:22,250 --> 01:45:20,159
present during the course of these

2565
01:45:24,169 --> 01:45:22,260
abductions would you see something what

2566
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:24,179
would you see and there's an interesting

2567
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answer to that which I'll give you in a

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2622
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welcome back to the para cast the gold

2623
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2624
01:48:16,440 --> 01:48:13,210
here's Jane Steinberg so we continue

2625
01:48:18,780 --> 01:48:16,450
with the options with regard to UFO

2626
01:48:20,340 --> 01:48:18,790
abductions if they put a video camera

2627
01:48:24,930 --> 01:48:20,350
there what would you see when someone

2628
01:48:26,970 --> 01:48:24,940
says well ET took me out the window took

2629
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:26,980
me through the wall whatever strange

2630
01:48:33,420 --> 01:48:30,130
little greys what would you see and a

2631
01:48:34,260 --> 01:48:33,430
lot of times what happens is even though

2632
01:48:36,690 --> 01:48:34,270
they're asleep

2633
01:48:38,340 --> 01:48:36,700
the individual who is subjected to

2634
01:48:43,620 --> 01:48:38,350
abductions or one of their family

2635
01:48:45,870 --> 01:48:43,630
members turns off the video camera so

2636
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:45,880
you can't capture it you've heard that

2637
01:48:52,290 --> 01:48:49,570
dogs right absolutely I think we all

2638
01:48:54,930 --> 01:48:52,300
know that it seems to be a common

2639
01:48:57,270 --> 01:48:54,940
occurrence in paranormal research

2640
01:49:01,140 --> 01:48:57,280
especially hunting ghosts or whatever

2641
01:49:04,290 --> 01:49:01,150
where equipment will mysteriously fail

2642
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:04,300
to work or batteries get drained they

2643
01:49:09,540 --> 01:49:06,370
have just been charged or fresh out to

2644
01:49:11,820 --> 01:49:09,550
the pocket and stuff and I I mean I'm

2645
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:11,830
not sure but I think some abduction

2646
01:49:18,300 --> 01:49:15,130
researchers would put forward the theory

2647
01:49:21,450 --> 01:49:18,310
that that you probably wouldn't capture

2648
01:49:25,500 --> 01:49:21,460
an abduction happening even if it is a

2649
01:49:28,260 --> 01:49:25,510
physical event because somehow whoever's

2650
01:49:31,980 --> 01:49:28,270
calling out the abduction they know when

2651
01:49:34,110 --> 01:49:31,990
the there's technology around that they

2652
01:49:36,330 --> 01:49:34,120
are to catch them out and somehow they

2653
01:49:38,790 --> 01:49:36,340
interfere with it this paranormal

2654
01:49:43,530 --> 01:49:38,800
research is just absolutely chock-full

2655
01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:43,540
of reports of equipment failing cameras

2656
01:49:48,750 --> 01:49:46,450
having blank seams on it for ten seconds

2657
01:49:51,690 --> 01:49:48,760
just at the exact point where people

2658
01:49:54,660 --> 01:49:51,700
reported something happening and I think

2659
01:49:57,390 --> 01:49:54,670
it's reported so much I personally think

2660
01:49:59,610 --> 01:49:57,400
there is something to it whatever is

2661
01:50:01,980 --> 01:49:59,620
behind many paranormal events and

2662
01:50:06,060 --> 01:50:01,990
creatures whatever they seem to have

2663
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:06,070
some kind of almost six cents or ability

2664
01:50:11,650 --> 01:50:09,410
to overcome technology that is trying

2665
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:11,660
to catch them out to prove their

2666
01:50:15,700 --> 01:50:14,090
existence it's almost like I don't know

2667
01:50:19,900 --> 01:50:15,710
there's just some inbuilt thing with

2668
01:50:22,810 --> 01:50:19,910
paranormal happenings that if it wants

2669
01:50:24,910 --> 01:50:22,820
to the phenomena can prevent us getting

2670
01:50:27,580 --> 01:50:24,920
proof for it don't know why but it just

2671
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:27,590
seems to be the case I agree with that

2672
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:29,330
in fact when it comes to and I'm going

2673
01:50:34,750 --> 01:50:31,610
to go back to Bigfoot hunting a lot of

2674
01:50:37,930 --> 01:50:34,760
the Bigfoot hunters have run into a big

2675
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:37,940
problem with trail cameras these animals

2676
01:50:41,290 --> 01:50:40,010
seem to know when there's trail cameras

2677
01:50:44,260 --> 01:50:41,300
out there I don't know what it is that

2678
01:50:46,180 --> 01:50:44,270
they can they hear it though that the

2679
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:46,190
mechanisms working or do they I don't

2680
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:48,290
know if they smell it or whatever but it

2681
01:50:52,690 --> 01:50:50,690
just seems that you know whenever you

2682
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:52,700
put a trail camera out there you're not

2683
01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:54,170
gonna get any kind of Bigfoot sightings

2684
01:50:57,820 --> 01:50:56,000
or any activity in that area they seem

2685
01:51:00,520 --> 01:50:57,830
to know when we put trail cameras out

2686
01:51:04,900 --> 01:51:00,530
there yeah and this seems to happen more

2687
01:51:07,750 --> 01:51:04,910
often than chance or luck or any kind of

2688
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:07,760
skill on the part of any Bigfoot or

2689
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:10,850
whatever is being researched there

2690
01:51:15,330 --> 01:51:12,890
definitely does seem to be this this a

2691
01:51:18,220 --> 01:51:15,340
theme in all paranormal research that

2692
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:18,230
when you try to capture evidence that

2693
01:51:25,300 --> 01:51:21,850
may you know be the smoking gun proof to

2694
01:51:28,570 --> 01:51:25,310
non-believers to the debunkers for some

2695
01:51:31,150 --> 01:51:28,580
reason it more often than not something

2696
01:51:34,090 --> 01:51:31,160
happens in which equipment will fail you

2697
01:51:36,430 --> 01:51:34,100
see it time and time again III think

2698
01:51:39,100 --> 01:51:36,440
it's an inbuilt part of the paranormal I

2699
01:51:42,370 --> 01:51:39,110
think I think researchers of the John

2700
01:51:45,510 --> 01:51:42,380
keels kind of ilk I think they would

2701
01:51:47,620 --> 01:51:45,520
probably argue that there is something

2702
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:47,630
it's hard to explain but there is

2703
01:51:53,890 --> 01:51:49,730
something in built-in paranormal

2704
01:51:56,110 --> 01:51:53,900
phenomena that allows it to mask itself

2705
01:51:58,150 --> 01:51:56,120
no matter what we do and that's why

2706
01:52:00,970 --> 01:51:58,160
there are you know not so many great

2707
01:52:02,980 --> 01:52:00,980
photos or whatever of UFOs and and big

2708
01:52:05,710 --> 01:52:02,990
food and there are times when it's

2709
01:52:08,710 --> 01:52:05,720
almost like the phenomena definitely

2710
01:52:11,350 --> 01:52:08,720
wants to be seen and but it's at the

2711
01:52:14,770 --> 01:52:11,360
choosing of the phenomena well we call

2712
01:52:16,870 --> 01:52:14,780
this the trickster element of UFOs it's

2713
01:52:19,180 --> 01:52:16,880
toying it's playing with us which is

2714
01:52:21,550 --> 01:52:19,190
right out of John keel as a matter of

2715
01:52:23,140 --> 01:52:21,560
fact although the big problem we always

2716
01:52:26,110 --> 01:52:23,150
had with keel

2717
01:52:30,100 --> 01:52:26,120
his research was shall we say less

2718
01:52:32,110 --> 01:52:30,110
perfect than his prose well I mean I'm

2719
01:52:34,510 --> 01:52:32,120
gonna go back to that classic movie

2720
01:52:36,820 --> 01:52:34,520
Close Encounters of the Third Kind at

2721
01:52:38,169 --> 01:52:36,830
the very beginning where they had

2722
01:52:41,110 --> 01:52:38,179
decided you remember the whole power

2723
01:52:43,660 --> 01:52:41,120
went off in the entire cities when the

2724
01:52:47,110 --> 01:52:43,670
things were flying around well that of

2725
01:52:51,970 --> 01:52:47,120
course is in its own way a way of

2726
01:52:53,290 --> 01:52:51,980
playing a trick on us mm-hmm cogs we

2727
01:52:56,140 --> 01:52:53,300
have a couple of questions from our

2728
01:52:59,050 --> 01:52:56,150
listeners okay yeah we're good we've got

2729
01:53:02,260 --> 01:52:59,060
a couple of questions from our very

2730
01:53:08,169 --> 01:53:02,270
long-term poster we'd at their forum

2731
01:53:10,419 --> 01:53:08,179
podcast calm and Wade is asking what is

2732
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:10,429
the most morbid place

2733
01:53:17,050 --> 01:53:13,850
Robert has ever visited say the location

2734
01:53:19,899 --> 01:53:17,060
of the infamous HH Holmes murder house

2735
01:53:22,919 --> 01:53:19,909
now a post office in brackets or any

2736
01:53:26,380 --> 01:53:22,929
place associated with Jeffrey Dahmer so

2737
01:53:33,010 --> 01:53:26,390
tell us about so maybe some locations

2738
01:53:35,770 --> 01:53:33,020
that have got very morbid history hmm we

2739
01:53:37,030 --> 01:53:35,780
whales with my wife up in Pennsylvania

2740
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:37,040
we went to this place called ghost

2741
01:53:47,790 --> 01:53:41,690
mountain and it its repute it is legend

2742
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:47,800
has it that there it is that albino

2743
01:53:54,399 --> 01:53:51,770
cannibals live in the woods and you know

2744
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:54,409
if a car breaks down you're doing to be

2745
01:53:59,800 --> 01:53:55,489
eaten by these people

2746
01:54:02,229 --> 01:53:59,810
but that bad the investigation on that

2747
01:54:04,870 --> 01:54:02,239
one turned out to not be that turned out

2748
01:54:07,950 --> 01:54:04,880
to be just uh what does it call a a high

2749
01:54:11,830 --> 01:54:07,960
school legend or the kicker bin' legend

2750
01:54:14,110 --> 01:54:11,840
yeah an urban legend thank you we did

2751
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:14,120
find the road we did find you know where

2752
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:16,250
was supposed to happen but you know we

2753
01:54:19,689 --> 01:54:18,290
didn't find any albino cama cannibals

2754
01:54:28,050 --> 01:54:19,699
out there run out roaming around the

2755
01:54:30,790 --> 01:54:28,060
woods trying to think that we did have a

2756
01:54:34,959 --> 01:54:30,800
an incident up in a peril there's a

2757
01:54:35,780 --> 01:54:34,969
place called the Oh God yeah in ax

2758
01:54:39,380 --> 01:54:35,790
murder place

2759
01:54:43,100 --> 01:54:39,390
places right in the green swamp miss

2760
01:54:44,510 --> 01:54:43,110
Gila is it away from my wife to hone in

2761
01:54:47,210 --> 01:54:44,520
on this I know she's listening because

2762
01:54:50,660 --> 01:54:47,220
we used to go out there and she set up

2763
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:50,670
cameras out there it's where this family

2764
01:54:58,130 --> 01:54:52,770
was murdered with an axe by their

2765
01:54:59,510 --> 01:54:58,140
grandson huh no when the reed God bless

2766
01:55:01,370 --> 01:54:59,520
I can't remember the name of it but

2767
01:55:03,620 --> 01:55:01,380
we've been out there numerous times and

2768
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:03,630
the way the story goes with the young

2769
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:05,490
man came with a friend of his in order

2770
01:55:12,650 --> 01:55:11,010
to rob the the man and woman and anyway

2771
01:55:14,090 --> 01:55:12,660
they got out there and they end up

2772
01:55:16,690 --> 01:55:14,100
taking an axe and they killed and

2773
01:55:18,980 --> 01:55:16,700
chopped him up and took their money so

2774
01:55:20,540 --> 01:55:18,990
the house itself it was torn down

2775
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:20,550
because I guess it was made with some

2776
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:23,010
really good timber and all that but it

2777
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:24,930
the whole area is supposed to be pretty

2778
01:55:30,140 --> 01:55:27,210
to be haunted by the the family affect

2779
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:30,150
the their graves are out there and it

2780
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:31,770
just so happens it's also an area out

2781
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:33,810
there where there's a lot of Bigfoot

2782
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:35,130
sighting in fact the area is called

2783
01:55:42,590 --> 01:55:40,050
Devil's Creek swamp and I'm trying to

2784
01:55:44,630 --> 01:55:42,600
remember the name of that the Stewart

2785
01:55:47,150 --> 01:55:44,640
there we go the Stewart murder site or

2786
01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:47,160
they called us they called a stewart axe

2787
01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:50,370
murder site and in the green swamp you

2788
01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:52,170
can look it up and there's a lot of

2789
01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:55,920
things written about it and no hunters

2790
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:57,840
will be like to go at that area at night

2791
01:56:02,320 --> 01:55:59,520
they kind of veer away from it because

2792
01:56:05,090 --> 01:56:02,330
you know the reputation of that area has

2793
01:56:08,660 --> 01:56:05,100
it's the reputation is so strong that

2794
01:56:10,610 --> 01:56:08,670
skinny with some very outdoorsy hunters

2795
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:10,620
that are obviously armed with something

2796
01:56:16,220 --> 01:56:12,930
or the other base enough for them to

2797
01:56:18,260 --> 01:56:16,230
give it a wide berth at night oh yes

2798
01:56:22,490 --> 01:56:18,270
like I said this book II part of the of

2799
01:56:26,420 --> 01:56:22,500
the green swamp area and and you know

2800
01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:26,430
there's a lot of its its factory I mean

2801
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:28,110
it is a lot of hunting that is allowed

2802
01:56:32,630 --> 01:56:30,930
in that area but hunters like I said

2803
01:56:34,130 --> 01:56:32,640
veer away from that area especially at

2804
01:56:38,810 --> 01:56:34,140
night because of the reputation that

2805
01:56:41,630 --> 01:56:38,820
place has I suppose also places that

2806
01:56:43,850 --> 01:56:41,640
have such a reputation one could argue

2807
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:43,860
that they're almost a self-fulfilling

2808
01:56:49,310 --> 01:56:47,010
prophecy in that if someone says a

2809
01:56:51,380 --> 01:56:49,320
certain location is secluded

2810
01:56:54,950 --> 01:56:51,390
please you know miles away from anywhere

2811
01:56:58,270 --> 01:56:54,960
is haunted and you end up alone in this

2812
01:57:02,840 --> 01:56:58,280
place not you know of your own design

2813
01:57:04,910 --> 01:57:02,850
your own imagination more you know never

2814
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:04,920
mind anything else is is probably gonna

2815
01:57:10,430 --> 01:57:07,110
make you think any noise you hear or any

2816
01:57:12,770 --> 01:57:10,440
animal that's you know moving through

2817
01:57:17,060 --> 01:57:12,780
the grass it would be very difficult not

2818
01:57:19,910 --> 01:57:17,070
to associate the legend or whatever

2819
01:57:22,130 --> 01:57:19,920
you've heard of this place you know in

2820
01:57:25,010 --> 01:57:22,140
your own mind because let's face it all

2821
01:57:27,350 --> 01:57:25,020
of us can be if we are now in just a

2822
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normal graveyard at night alone miles

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away for many people it's a kind of

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hundred five nine one one six eight two

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one eight hundred five nine one 1682

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this is Dan Pihl do you owe the IRS

2921
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money you can't pay our tax debts

2922
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crippling you I've defended people from

2923
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the IRS for over 30 years I've helped

2924
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thousands and I can help you too I wrote

2925
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the book on IRS settlement and I'm

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telling you there's no such thing as a

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hopeless case call 834 no tax to finally

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get free of IRS debt with the IRS as new

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2931
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tax that's eight hundred three four no

2932
02:01:54,050 --> 02:01:52,080
tax or my website Dan pillow comm we'd

2933
02:01:56,060 --> 02:01:54,060
like to hear from you if you have a

2934
02:01:59,750 --> 02:01:56,070
comment or question about the Peres cast

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sent it to news at the Peres cast com

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that's news at the Peres cast calm and

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para cast calm oh this is very

2940
02:02:16,700 --> 02:02:14,540
fascinating journey I'll tell ya

2941
02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:16,710
especially for someone like me I'm a

2942
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:19,650
hermit and my name is not Herman but you

2943
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:21,570
know I don't travel that much as a

2944
02:02:24,620 --> 02:02:23,130
matter of fact there's one thing I want

2945
02:02:27,080 --> 02:02:24,630
to talk about here because we only have

2946
02:02:30,590 --> 02:02:27,090
three segments left and you've got a

2947
02:02:32,780 --> 02:02:30,600
chapter there where you kind of list the

2948
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:32,790
bill of fare the Bill of Materials that

2949
02:02:36,650 --> 02:02:34,410
you should take with you depending on

2950
02:02:38,810 --> 02:02:36,660
what you're doing so say I want to go

2951
02:02:40,940 --> 02:02:38,820
out and I want to look for UFO other

2952
02:02:44,540 --> 02:02:40,950
than in the camera or the iPhone

2953
02:02:46,220 --> 02:02:44,550
whatever what do I take with me well my

2954
02:02:49,060 --> 02:02:46,230
book infront of me so I'm gonna do like

2955
02:02:52,790 --> 02:02:49,070
I said I like having a night vision in a

2956
02:02:56,180 --> 02:02:52,800
GPS like we have what they call the

2957
02:02:57,260 --> 02:02:56,190
Bionic here the parabolic here the car

2958
02:03:00,290 --> 02:02:57,270
stuck it's a camping equipment

2959
02:03:01,730 --> 02:03:00,300
flashlight plenty of batteries I always

2960
02:03:04,130 --> 02:03:01,740
tell people make sure you got plenty of

2961
02:03:05,870 --> 02:03:04,140
rain gear cuz you know well we didn't

2962
02:03:07,970 --> 02:03:05,880
say it was gonna rain tonight though the

2963
02:03:10,190 --> 02:03:07,980
weatherman is always wrong so they can

2964
02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:10,200
you explain me bionic ear device that

2965
02:03:18,370 --> 02:03:13,890
others a parabolic ear it's like a dome

2966
02:03:21,650 --> 02:03:18,380
with a a device attached to it that

2967
02:03:23,050 --> 02:03:21,660
magnifies sound around you and you know

2968
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:23,060
you've got some earphones that you

2969
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:25,970
you can actually plug it into a recorder

2970
02:03:31,210 --> 02:03:28,490
but you can scan an area like say you

2971
02:03:32,500 --> 02:03:31,220
see something up in there moving you can

2972
02:03:34,780 --> 02:03:32,510
name it up there and you can tell to

2973
02:03:37,030 --> 02:03:34,790
actually hear what the what it is that

2974
02:03:38,590 --> 02:03:37,040
you're seeing nothing in the sky and

2975
02:03:40,660 --> 02:03:38,600
sometimes you can tell it's as if it's

2976
02:03:43,630 --> 02:03:40,670
an airplane a helicopter or if it's

2977
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:43,640
something else so you've got experience

2978
02:03:47,650 --> 02:03:45,410
of using these things I have seen them

2979
02:03:49,660 --> 02:03:47,660
I've seen them on TV or ever before but

2980
02:03:51,460 --> 02:03:49,670
I've never been sure if they were much

2981
02:03:53,890 --> 02:03:51,470
more of a gimmick or a you know if you

2982
02:03:56,080 --> 02:03:53,900
just get loads of background sirens all

2983
02:03:58,720 --> 02:03:56,090
sounding loud or kind of really kind of

2984
02:04:00,610 --> 02:03:58,730
homed in on a distant sound well it does

2985
02:04:01,720 --> 02:04:00,620
hear everything I'm not gonna lie

2986
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:01,730
anything you can't you know I'm not

2987
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:03,050
gonna hear background noises because

2988
02:04:06,910 --> 02:04:05,330
sometimes you do but you know you if you

2989
02:04:09,390 --> 02:04:06,920
aiming it just focused on an area

2990
02:04:12,460 --> 02:04:09,400
because you it's got a it's a dome type

2991
02:04:14,230 --> 02:04:12,470
contraption and you do focus it up you

2992
02:04:16,930 --> 02:04:14,240
know you it's gonna focus on what you're

2993
02:04:19,450 --> 02:04:16,940
aiming at versus you know cars going

2994
02:04:21,550 --> 02:04:19,460
down the road but you will hear other

2995
02:04:23,830 --> 02:04:21,560
things out in fact you know you hear the

2996
02:04:25,090 --> 02:04:23,840
person next to you talking and you know

2997
02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:25,100
we always tell each other whenever

2998
02:04:28,570 --> 02:04:27,170
you're using that to be careful you're

2999
02:04:29,740 --> 02:04:28,580
talking around the person cuz

3000
02:04:31,990 --> 02:04:29,750
unfortunately you can actually cause

3001
02:04:33,820 --> 02:04:32,000
some damage to their eardrums if you you

3002
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:33,830
know making really loud noises around

3003
02:04:37,930 --> 02:04:34,250
them

3004
02:04:41,650 --> 02:04:37,940
yes Robert they're bionic ear device

3005
02:04:44,460 --> 02:04:41,660
this parabolic kind of sound antenna a

3006
02:04:47,410 --> 02:04:44,470
tick you're mentioning that this is

3007
02:04:49,930 --> 02:04:47,420
specifically for Bigfoot hunting is it's

3008
02:04:52,540 --> 02:04:49,940
because people quite often say that they

3009
02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:52,550
claim that they've recorded sounds of

3010
02:04:57,640 --> 02:04:54,770
big food is that kind of where you're

3011
02:05:00,970 --> 02:04:57,650
going with that actually we we've taken

3012
02:05:02,770 --> 02:05:00,980
it on ghost hunts we took it you know we

3013
02:05:04,270 --> 02:05:02,780
take it I take it with me whatever I go

3014
02:05:06,160 --> 02:05:04,280
out cuz you never know what it is that

3015
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:06,170
you know you might be out there looking

3016
02:05:11,260 --> 02:05:08,330
for you know live you up in New Jersey

3017
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:11,270
looking for the Jersey Devil you know

3018
02:05:14,860 --> 02:05:12,610
you could use it out there which again

3019
02:05:17,890 --> 02:05:14,870
that's more along the lines of Bigfoot

3020
02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:17,900
and when I mean cryptids but how the

3021
02:05:24,340 --> 02:05:21,290
Jersey Devil always impressed me is more

3022
02:05:25,870 --> 02:05:24,350
of a tourist trap kind of thing well

3023
02:05:27,430 --> 02:05:25,880
unfortunately I haven't East Anderson

3024
02:05:28,690 --> 02:05:27,440
wrote that hit so exactly what he

3025
02:05:31,540 --> 02:05:28,700
thought it was he doesn't think there

3026
02:05:33,970 --> 02:05:31,550
was any anything out there and I'm I'm a

3027
02:05:35,290 --> 02:05:33,980
big int Sanderson fan but I you know

3028
02:05:37,300 --> 02:05:35,300
look I've been up to the

3029
02:05:38,890 --> 02:05:37,310
I'm barons and that's a pretty that's a

3030
02:05:40,690 --> 02:05:38,900
pretty big huge area I don't think

3031
02:05:43,450 --> 02:05:40,700
people realize that Jersey has a lot of

3032
02:05:45,100 --> 02:05:43,460
wooded area and we always think of New

3033
02:05:49,780 --> 02:05:45,110
Jersey where they have the oil

3034
02:05:51,460 --> 02:05:49,790
refineries yes there are stories of

3035
02:05:54,040 --> 02:05:51,470
people seeing something out there I mean

3036
02:05:57,460 --> 02:05:54,050
is it a Bigfoot baby you know I did

3037
02:05:58,870 --> 02:05:57,470
sorry to say there but you know most

3038
02:06:02,590 --> 02:05:58,880
people are reported seeing these things

3039
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:02,600
with you know it has wings and it just

3040
02:06:10,990 --> 02:06:09,400
my wife can you know she just walked by

3041
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:11,000
here in the background kind of said all

3042
02:06:18,370 --> 02:06:16,330
those just stories y'all right so but

3043
02:06:19,510 --> 02:06:18,380
you know there are still a lot of

3044
02:06:21,250 --> 02:06:19,520
stories coming out that there's

3045
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:21,260
something out there and that is a pretty

3046
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:23,690
big huge area out there do you tell us

3047
02:06:30,010 --> 02:06:27,050
more about this which places you've

3048
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:30,020
maybe gone ghost hunting and anything

3049
02:06:35,710 --> 02:06:32,570
interesting ever happened Robert

3050
02:06:41,620 --> 02:06:35,720
Robinson well we've been a lot of jails

3051
02:06:43,780 --> 02:06:41,630
here in Florida we went to we went to an

3052
02:06:45,220 --> 02:06:43,790
old building up in North Carolina that

3053
02:06:49,810 --> 02:06:45,230
was supposedly haunted by one of the

3054
02:06:52,270 --> 02:06:49,820
Rockefellers up north in Pennsylvania we

3055
02:06:55,420 --> 02:06:52,280
would we we were going to go to Eastern

3056
02:06:58,570 --> 02:06:55,430
Penitentiary but that didn't pan out but

3057
02:07:00,370 --> 02:06:58,580
we wife got another area I'm trying to

3058
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:00,380
remember what it was some house that we

3059
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:03,050
went to it was a bed-and-breakfast and

3060
02:07:08,350 --> 02:07:05,930
it was featured on a bunch of shows in

3061
02:07:09,940 --> 02:07:08,360
Bucks ville and we stayed there that

3062
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:09,950
night we went ahead and set up cameras

3063
02:07:14,590 --> 02:07:12,050
and my wife said she felt like something

3064
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:14,600
was pulling her hair that night but I

3065
02:07:19,780 --> 02:07:18,410
didn't get anything on camera maybe we

3066
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:19,790
should bring her in for a couple of

3067
02:07:28,870 --> 02:07:25,690
minutes I can pull her in hold on

3068
02:07:30,610 --> 02:07:28,880
because she goes with we have Tracy

3069
02:07:34,720 --> 02:07:30,620
Robinson join us for a few minutes

3070
02:07:36,820 --> 02:07:34,730
because she is his co-conspirator yeah

3071
02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:36,830
yeah that's a good word for that right

3072
02:07:42,610 --> 02:07:40,010
that's right and therefore he since he's

3073
02:07:45,550 --> 02:07:42,620
brought you up a couple of times we

3074
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:45,560
wanted to mention your experiences too

3075
02:07:48,730 --> 02:07:48,410
what things have you seen or heard in

3076
02:07:50,530 --> 02:07:48,740
the

3077
02:07:54,280 --> 02:07:50,540
normal that have kind of caught your

3078
02:07:57,610 --> 02:07:54,290
attention I got interested when I was

3079
02:08:00,040 --> 02:07:57,620
nine years old my grandfather had

3080
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:00,050
committed suicide and he lived about an

3081
02:08:05,770 --> 02:08:02,570
hour away from us when we saw him on

3082
02:08:08,850 --> 02:08:05,780
holidays probably twice a year but he's

3083
02:08:10,780 --> 02:08:08,860
very very important in my life but he

3084
02:08:14,980 --> 02:08:10,790
there was a phone call about two o'clock

3085
02:08:17,350 --> 02:08:14,990
in the morning and I had I knew what

3086
02:08:18,790 --> 02:08:17,360
happened just the bizarre I didn't know

3087
02:08:20,230 --> 02:08:18,800
he had committed suicide but I knew that

3088
02:08:22,150 --> 02:08:20,240
he was gone

3089
02:08:23,650 --> 02:08:22,160
because he had visited me at the end of

3090
02:08:26,290 --> 02:08:23,660
my bed

3091
02:08:30,850 --> 02:08:26,300
he had his cardigan on and everything so

3092
02:08:34,110 --> 02:08:30,860
um years later I I wanted to see if that

3093
02:08:37,270 --> 02:08:34,120
was a real experience for me so I gotten

3094
02:08:39,130 --> 02:08:37,280
interested in the paranormal and I

3095
02:08:42,250 --> 02:08:39,140
started talking to my sister and she

3096
02:08:44,380 --> 02:08:42,260
should ask me why why I do what I do and

3097
02:08:46,810 --> 02:08:44,390
I said you know I told because the

3098
02:08:50,140 --> 02:08:46,820
grandpa had visited me and she's the

3099
02:08:51,610 --> 02:08:50,150
same thing had happened to her so yeah

3100
02:08:53,860 --> 02:08:51,620
and she doesn't really make that kind of

3101
02:08:57,010 --> 02:08:53,870
stuff up so it kind of validated me but

3102
02:08:59,860 --> 02:08:57,020
I still look for crazy stuff have you

3103
02:09:02,410 --> 02:08:59,870
ever gone somewhere with Robert where

3104
02:09:03,360 --> 02:09:02,420
you know it disappointed you it wasn't

3105
02:09:06,490 --> 02:09:03,370
what you hope for

3106
02:09:08,550 --> 02:09:06,500
okay so everywhere we go it's never a

3107
02:09:11,260 --> 02:09:08,560
disappointment because he's kind of nuts

3108
02:09:13,720 --> 02:09:11,270
he it's if if we're looking for a

3109
02:09:16,030 --> 02:09:13,730
certain thing we always find and we

3110
02:09:17,530 --> 02:09:16,040
don't find it we always find something

3111
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:17,540
else there's there's always a back-up

3112
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:21,410
plan with him in fact he'll go oh let's

3113
02:09:26,260 --> 02:09:23,450
try this way and and it's usually he's

3114
02:09:28,540 --> 02:09:26,270
got something else going on so I'm not

3115
02:09:31,570 --> 02:09:28,550
quite sure I usually read in the book

3116
02:09:33,270 --> 02:09:31,580
and just kind of let it go and ya know

3117
02:09:37,150 --> 02:09:33,280
it's it's never disappointing with him

3118
02:09:38,740 --> 02:09:37,160
there's there was one story we went to

3119
02:09:40,030 --> 02:09:38,750
growing up I think he I think he hit on

3120
02:09:42,010 --> 02:09:40,040
this a little bit we were up at the

3121
02:09:44,490 --> 02:09:42,020
pyramids did you hit on that one mm-hmm

3122
02:09:48,010 --> 02:09:44,500
and we all thought it was a big cult and

3123
02:09:49,630 --> 02:09:48,020
we had my daughter and her fiance and my

3124
02:09:51,850 --> 02:09:49,640
son we're in the car and you're talking

3125
02:09:53,410 --> 02:09:51,860
years and years and years of us scared

3126
02:09:55,510 --> 02:09:53,420
to death of this place to have pyramids

3127
02:09:57,730 --> 02:09:55,520
in it and then the hell's the the the

3128
02:09:59,650 --> 02:09:57,740
hellhounds would come after you and and

3129
02:10:01,210 --> 02:09:59,660
eat you with you if you got dropped off

3130
02:10:02,580 --> 02:10:01,220
there one of the pranks senior

3131
02:10:04,770 --> 02:10:02,590
pranksters we used to drop off

3132
02:10:07,020 --> 02:10:04,780
freshmen and then just take off and

3133
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:07,030
leave them there in the and it's really

3134
02:10:13,770 --> 02:10:10,930
mean but in it by the pyramids and so so

3135
02:10:15,090 --> 02:10:13,780
so this guy decides I'm gonna go find

3136
02:10:17,940 --> 02:10:15,100
out what's really going on with this

3137
02:10:21,390 --> 02:10:17,950
place you know what let's cliffhanger

3138
02:10:24,180 --> 02:10:21,400
this okay all right so Tracy what we'll

3139
02:10:26,630 --> 02:10:24,190
do is we'll continue with this what

3140
02:10:30,390 --> 02:10:26,640
really happened in our next segment

3141
02:10:40,130 --> 02:10:30,400
we've got robert and traci robinson and

3142
02:10:48,890 --> 02:10:44,030
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Scotland Tracy and Robert in Florida

3252
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Jean we never revealed where I am it's a

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shack somewhere under the bowels of the

3254
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earth in Mesa Arizona

3255
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Tracy you were telling us a story okay

3256
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this story I was telling you about was

3257
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the pyramid right where is that again

3258
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it's County Upper Bucks County I used to

3259
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live near to there I used to live in

3260
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Chester County oh yeah sure I know

3261
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Chester County not very well but I know

3262
02:15:44,900 --> 02:15:40,430
where it is

3263
02:15:47,390 --> 02:15:44,910
do you want to continue oh yeah we were

3264
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Oh

3265
02:15:51,350 --> 02:15:49,740
so we drive up I had explained all of

3266
02:15:53,180 --> 02:15:51,360
this to him I've got the kids in the car

3267
02:15:56,060 --> 02:15:53,190
but they weren't kids they're adults at

3268
02:15:57,440 --> 02:15:56,070
this time and he goes that's it we're

3269
02:16:00,830 --> 02:15:57,450
gonna figure out what's going on it was

3270
02:16:04,520 --> 02:16:00,840
just Sunday and he pulls in and he what

3271
02:16:06,530 --> 02:16:04,530
he walks into the building and you know

3272
02:16:08,540 --> 02:16:06,540
calmly walks back out again and he's

3273
02:16:14,660 --> 02:16:08,550
waving to us to come out and we're like

3274
02:16:17,180 --> 02:16:14,670
like no killed it's not gonna happen

3275
02:16:19,190 --> 02:16:17,190
and here he had gone in and it was the

3276
02:16:20,900 --> 02:16:19,200
church it was just a church and they

3277
02:16:22,280 --> 02:16:20,910
were having service and they invited us

3278
02:16:26,420 --> 02:16:22,290
to come in and walk around the grounds

3279
02:16:28,720 --> 02:16:26,430
and get to get to talk to them and and

3280
02:16:31,400 --> 02:16:28,730
actually meet the the Hound health which

3281
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:31,410
rolled over on his belly and had me rub

3282
02:16:37,250 --> 02:16:35,250
her so funny that was a disappointment

3283
02:16:39,830 --> 02:16:37,260
but not a disappointment it was an

3284
02:16:40,970 --> 02:16:39,840
amazing experience for us because when I

3285
02:16:42,470 --> 02:16:40,980
went back and told my girl friends from

3286
02:16:43,820 --> 02:16:42,480
high school and my friends from high

3287
02:16:46,220 --> 02:16:43,830
school they were like get out of here

3288
02:16:49,070 --> 02:16:46,230
what do your friends think about this

3289
02:16:52,100 --> 02:16:49,080
you have the book out now where you

3290
02:16:53,089 --> 02:16:52,110
people are traveling to crazy places in

3291
02:16:56,900 --> 02:16:53,099
the United States

3292
02:16:57,830 --> 02:16:56,910
to see crazy wacky things they must envy

3293
02:17:00,320 --> 02:16:57,840
you

3294
02:17:03,020 --> 02:17:00,330
yeah whatever Rob's on TV he's been on a

3295
02:17:05,030 --> 02:17:03,030
couple different shows my girlfriends

3296
02:17:07,430 --> 02:17:05,040
will call me and say you know hey that

3297
02:17:09,260 --> 02:17:07,440
is your husband on TV we move we move

3298
02:17:10,640 --> 02:17:09,270
quite a kind of far away so I haven't I

3299
02:17:13,250 --> 02:17:10,650
don't see them all the time I see maybe

3300
02:17:15,770 --> 02:17:13,260
maybe once a year when I go back up to

3301
02:17:17,870 --> 02:17:15,780
visit um but they'll be like that's

3302
02:17:21,140 --> 02:17:17,880
that's Rob your husband right and I'm

3303
02:17:23,089 --> 02:17:21,150
like yes yeah now they're there some of

3304
02:17:26,089 --> 02:17:23,099
them think it's it's really really neat

3305
02:17:27,680 --> 02:17:26,099
you some of them think like you know you

3306
02:17:30,320 --> 02:17:27,690
are crazy because I wasn't really all

3307
02:17:34,220 --> 02:17:30,330
that crazy and in high school I was kind

3308
02:17:36,379 --> 02:17:34,230
of reserved not I didn't really tell

3309
02:17:37,669 --> 02:17:36,389
anybody that I watched you know this

3310
02:17:39,950 --> 02:17:37,679
stuff that I used to watch because I you

3311
02:17:41,480 --> 02:17:39,960
know I used to watch kung-fu movies and

3312
02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:41,490
stuff that didn't make you a very

3313
02:17:46,400 --> 02:17:43,889
popular in high school I never told

3314
02:17:48,770 --> 02:17:46,410
anybody that but now you know they're

3315
02:17:50,660 --> 02:17:48,780
starting to understand how I really was

3316
02:17:52,040 --> 02:17:50,670
in high school they didn't know it a lot

3317
02:17:54,379 --> 02:17:52,050
of my a lot of my friends from high

3318
02:17:55,790 --> 02:17:54,389
school who were really into that they

3319
02:17:57,230 --> 02:17:55,800
were just kind of quaint anissa's have

3320
02:17:58,640 --> 02:17:57,240
become really good friends of mine now

3321
02:18:02,930 --> 02:17:58,650
that I that I've come out of the closet

3322
02:18:05,480 --> 02:18:02,940
so you were a wacky person in high

3323
02:18:10,930 --> 02:18:05,490
school how long have you two known each

3324
02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:15,709
yeah I I came in met him two weeks I

3325
02:18:22,760 --> 02:18:19,530
live in Texas I worked for a I work for

3326
02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:22,770
a home-improvement store in Texas and he

3327
02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:24,570
was in North Carolina and my sister kind

3328
02:18:29,450 --> 02:18:27,210
of set us up and I I came out two weeks

3329
02:18:30,020 --> 02:18:29,460
before 9/11 to meet him and then I just

3330
02:18:31,700 --> 02:18:30,030
never left

3331
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:31,710
he got deployed and I stayed with the

3332
02:18:36,260 --> 02:18:34,050
kids we're gonna be together ever since

3333
02:18:39,919 --> 02:18:36,270
what was an interest in the paranormal

3334
02:18:41,419 --> 02:18:39,929
was it kind of a like declared on both

3335
02:18:43,100 --> 02:18:41,429
sides when you first met did you

3336
02:18:46,520 --> 02:18:43,110
discover that you're both interested in

3337
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:46,530
this kind of thing no she was more the

3338
02:18:50,990 --> 02:18:49,200
paranormal you know she's and then we

3339
02:18:54,020 --> 02:18:51,000
met people actually didn't I just kind

3340
02:18:56,180 --> 02:18:54,030
of came along you know just but both of

3341
02:18:58,610 --> 02:18:56,190
us were kind of afraid to tell each

3342
02:19:02,450 --> 02:18:58,620
other how our interests what our

3343
02:19:06,650 --> 02:19:02,460
interests were um at first because we I

3344
02:19:08,419 --> 02:19:06,660
know I I it was before mainstream you

3345
02:19:10,549 --> 02:19:08,429
know before the show's came out like

3346
02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:10,559
those hunters and all of that when you

3347
02:19:13,640 --> 02:19:11,370
would talk about what you were

3348
02:19:15,470 --> 02:19:13,650
interested in they they they would come

3349
02:19:15,919 --> 02:19:15,480
down on you pretty hard and you know

3350
02:19:17,900 --> 02:19:15,929
call you

3351
02:19:21,439 --> 02:19:17,910
not so we were a little reserved about

3352
02:19:23,629 --> 02:19:21,449
it at first with them then you know it

3353
02:19:26,179 --> 02:19:23,639
just it just came out that's really

3354
02:19:28,969 --> 02:19:26,189
funny yeah I think I think it's an

3355
02:19:32,030 --> 02:19:28,979
effect partly due to the x-files and the

3356
02:19:34,939 --> 02:19:32,040
90s I think it tired quite a lot to do

3357
02:19:36,620 --> 02:19:34,949
with part of normal things becoming a

3358
02:19:38,330 --> 02:19:36,630
bit more accepted now I think there are

3359
02:19:40,700 --> 02:19:38,340
quite a few people have maybe even been

3360
02:19:43,009 --> 02:19:40,710
just enjoyed the show because it they

3361
02:19:45,559 --> 02:19:43,019
just enjoyed our show and maybe because

3362
02:19:47,179 --> 02:19:45,569
of that they've kind of got an interest

3363
02:19:48,830 --> 02:19:47,189
in the paranormal but definitely the

3364
02:19:53,479 --> 02:19:48,840
last 10 20 years

3365
02:19:56,150 --> 02:19:53,489
I think TV for sharor has become so so

3366
02:19:58,460 --> 02:19:56,160
much more paranormal friendly and we

3367
02:20:00,410 --> 02:19:58,470
have to wonder 10 years from now

3368
02:20:02,450 --> 02:20:00,420
unless it's just a kind of passing phase

3369
02:20:05,300 --> 02:20:02,460
you know maybe maybe it'll become even

3370
02:20:08,179 --> 02:20:05,310
more accepted and we will never hear

3371
02:20:10,370 --> 02:20:08,189
sarcastic news stories about UFO

3372
02:20:12,559 --> 02:20:10,380
sightings whatever definitely seems to

3373
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:12,569
be going that direction I hope so I

3374
02:20:16,490 --> 02:20:14,010
really do because there's a lot of

3375
02:20:19,550 --> 02:20:16,500
people who are experiencing things and

3376
02:20:20,420 --> 02:20:19,560
believe me I I'm I'm a skeptic without

3377
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:20,430
being a cynic

3378
02:20:25,519 --> 02:20:23,370
I am very skeptical and on certain

3379
02:20:27,620 --> 02:20:25,529
things but I'm never cynical about

3380
02:20:29,059 --> 02:20:27,630
things if you tell me a story I'm gonna

3381
02:20:32,360 --> 02:20:29,069
listen to you I'm gonna understand you

3382
02:20:34,330 --> 02:20:32,370
know you give you the the full benefit

3383
02:20:37,219 --> 02:20:34,340
of the doubt if I don't believe you

3384
02:20:39,170 --> 02:20:37,229
that's my right I'm not gonna call you

3385
02:20:41,420 --> 02:20:39,180
out on it I'll just you know kind of

3386
02:20:42,860 --> 02:20:41,430
graciously nod my head and and and walk

3387
02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:42,870
away and probably become really good

3388
02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:44,250
friends on Facebook that's usually what

3389
02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:47,850
happens but I don't know I I tried it I

3390
02:20:53,990 --> 02:20:51,210
keep an open mind but I I'm not I'm not

3391
02:20:56,330 --> 02:20:54,000
convinced on a lot of things we Bigfoot

3392
02:20:59,150 --> 02:20:56,340
hunting - trust me if there was for me

3393
02:21:01,790 --> 02:20:59,160
if there was a 10-foot being out in the

3394
02:21:05,059 --> 02:21:01,800
woods I wouldn't be out there with it it

3395
02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:05,069
just wouldn't happen for me so if I ever

3396
02:21:08,809 --> 02:21:07,290
do see Bigfoot I will never go back out

3397
02:21:12,500 --> 02:21:08,819
in the woods again not gonna happen

3398
02:21:15,290 --> 02:21:12,510
so you basically look at this academic

3399
02:21:18,530 --> 02:21:15,300
fashion we'll go to the site see what's

3400
02:21:21,469 --> 02:21:18,540
going on both UFO lands or the creature

3401
02:21:28,880 --> 02:21:21,479
comes forth I'm out of here

3402
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:28,890
I mean you may hang up I don't know

3403
02:21:32,639 --> 02:21:30,010
about that one I mean

3404
02:21:34,979 --> 02:21:32,649
I definitely think I would still stay I

3405
02:21:36,420 --> 02:21:34,989
mean it would definitely as I've talked

3406
02:21:39,450 --> 02:21:36,430
to some witness it would definitely have

3407
02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:39,460
an emotional impact on me yeah but I

3408
02:21:44,639 --> 02:21:42,850
don't think that I would stop and I'll

3409
02:21:48,750 --> 02:21:44,649
say like I have a lady a friend of mine

3410
02:21:50,790 --> 02:21:48,760
Denise doner she was a she has a she was

3411
02:21:51,510 --> 02:21:50,800
an update yes she's been on the

3412
02:21:54,689 --> 02:21:51,520
powertest

3413
02:21:57,420 --> 02:21:54,699
yeah and she is still very very active

3414
02:21:59,519 --> 02:21:57,430
and in fact I even had just to let you

3415
02:22:01,109 --> 02:21:59,529
know I had her look over my book on

3416
02:22:04,950 --> 02:22:01,119
certain parts good I want to hurt her

3417
02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:04,960
you know her input cuz um cuz like I

3418
02:22:09,719 --> 02:22:06,970
said in you know it she's wanted like I

3419
02:22:12,149 --> 02:22:09,729
said she's one of those abductees do III

3420
02:22:15,330 --> 02:22:12,159
do believe something happened with her

3421
02:22:18,719 --> 02:22:15,340
she's very convincing yeah definitely I

3422
02:22:22,920 --> 02:22:18,729
mean it I think I think many of us say

3423
02:22:25,050 --> 02:22:22,930
don't accept all abduction air cases but

3424
02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:25,060
there are some cases that just you know

3425
02:22:30,660 --> 02:22:28,210
there just seemed to be so good no I do

3426
02:22:32,519 --> 02:22:30,670
think it does happen so so Tracy's

3427
02:22:35,069 --> 02:22:32,529
specifically talking to you

3428
02:22:36,870 --> 02:22:35,079
what what is your kind of what is your

3429
02:22:39,420 --> 02:22:36,880
thing in terms of paranormal what's your

3430
02:22:42,149 --> 02:22:39,430
favorite kind of part of the paranormal

3431
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:42,159
scene is it ghost hunting or UFOs or

3432
02:22:51,809 --> 02:22:49,930
what kind of my thing do you actually go

3433
02:22:52,859 --> 02:22:51,819
on ghost hunts you know I know you've

3434
02:22:55,349 --> 02:22:52,869
said you've been to a couple of places

3435
02:22:57,149 --> 02:22:55,359
but do you go with the gadgets and stuff

3436
02:22:58,889 --> 02:22:57,159
like that you know EMF meters and

3437
02:23:00,719 --> 02:22:58,899
whatever do you do you go that far I do

3438
02:23:02,399 --> 02:23:00,729
you just like to visit these places and

3439
02:23:04,529 --> 02:23:02,409
have a look around yeah we've actually

3440
02:23:07,679 --> 02:23:04,539
I've been I'm not quite a few guys times

3441
02:23:10,500 --> 02:23:07,689
over the years we have some friends who

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are about as professional close to

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they have all the gadgets and so it's a

3445
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lot of fun on her see with me I'm I'm

3446
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really not out to prove anything to

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anybody other than myself

3448
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so I really don't need the the gadgets

3449
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but you do have a ghost hunting bag I do

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have a ghost hunting bag honestly I

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would just I used to work at a cemetery

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I used to do the state regs for burials

3453
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and I spent a lot of a spent a lot of

3454
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time there and I've had a lot of

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personal experiences that um

3456
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validated it for myself and

3457
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it's really why I'm in it I know a lot

3458
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of people are in it to get famous and

3459
02:23:52,230 --> 02:23:51,340
and to get on TV and it's just really

3460
02:23:54,750 --> 02:23:52,240
not my thing

3461
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the thing is also when you go on TV

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nobody's handing you a big check no no

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they're not

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we know how that works it doesn't happen

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only very very few people who get

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pursuits come out of it with lots of

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money the rest are just regular people

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who have an interest in they pursue it

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we're going to pursue one more segment

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with the Robinson family but not that

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Robertson family from lost in space it

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sounds like we can start a new show with

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this I'm going to answer about what the

3475
02:24:30,780 --> 02:24:28,029
kids think about this Tracy and Robert

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02:24:40,280 --> 02:24:30,790
Robinson the book is legend tripping

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you are tuned into the para cast let me

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tell you what you're gonna hear stuff

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02:29:05,631 --> 02:29:01,360
here that you probably won't hear

3593
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anywhere else here that George Noory

3594
02:29:10,110 --> 02:29:07,841
Tracy I'm so glad to have you on the

3595
02:29:10,970 --> 02:29:10,120
show and fat will just throw Robert off

3596
02:29:14,881 --> 02:29:10,980
I'm kidding

3597
02:29:17,761 --> 02:29:14,891
but seriously speaking here mommy and

3598
02:29:21,900 --> 02:29:17,771
daddy are looking after ghosts and UFOs

3599
02:29:23,461 --> 02:29:21,910
and cryptids what do your kids think I

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02:29:28,950 --> 02:29:23,471
think we're crazy

3601
02:29:31,831 --> 02:29:28,960
yeah it's as though no my daughters are

3602
02:29:34,140 --> 02:29:31,841
very weary on the whole ghost thing and

3603
02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:34,150
it does scare them they like to go out

3604
02:29:37,950 --> 02:29:36,250
and they like to do this kind of stuff

3605
02:29:40,591 --> 02:29:37,960
they love going out here's the thing we

3606
02:29:42,541 --> 02:29:40,601
had Rob has three children I have three

3607
02:29:44,940 --> 02:29:42,551
children we brought them all together

3608
02:29:45,270 --> 02:29:44,950
they were all teenagers and we were flat

3609
02:29:48,091 --> 02:29:45,280
broke

3610
02:29:49,171 --> 02:29:48,101
because they were expensive we had to

3611
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figure out things to do with them that

3612
02:29:53,131 --> 02:29:51,221
wouldn't cost too much money and and

3613
02:29:54,990 --> 02:29:53,141
keep them safe and and not behind the

3614
02:29:57,001 --> 02:29:55,000
video games all the time so we just

3615
02:29:59,520 --> 02:29:57,011
figured what better way to do it than to

3616
02:30:02,881 --> 02:29:59,530
introduce them to our weird world and

3617
02:30:05,610 --> 02:30:02,891
keep them out of trouble so it works and

3618
02:30:07,831 --> 02:30:05,620
the kids do they liked it they really

3619
02:30:10,560 --> 02:30:07,841
liked coming out with us it brought them

3620
02:30:13,020 --> 02:30:10,570
together to it as step-siblings

3621
02:30:15,270 --> 02:30:13,030
what kind of vehicle do you have to have

3622
02:30:17,251 --> 02:30:15,280
for six kids or though of course some

3623
02:30:20,500 --> 02:30:17,261
are grown now and they does go out with

3624
02:30:25,370 --> 02:30:23,480
filled with all sorts of goodies we had

3625
02:30:27,770 --> 02:30:25,380
nope haven't I put stuff on top of the

3626
02:30:29,360 --> 02:30:27,780
roof sometimes when we go out you're not

3627
02:30:34,730 --> 02:30:29,370
gonna be like Mitt Romney who put his

3628
02:30:37,400 --> 02:30:34,740
dog on the roof no I can't get over that

3629
02:30:39,620 --> 02:30:37,410
story I am sorry that gets us into the

3630
02:30:41,390 --> 02:30:39,630
political realm but I can't get over do

3631
02:30:44,450 --> 02:30:41,400
you ever take a pet with you do you have

3632
02:30:48,380 --> 02:30:44,460
pets we had heard and read some stories

3633
02:30:50,090 --> 02:30:48,390
where animals are very sensitive we did

3634
02:30:51,830 --> 02:30:50,100
go ahead and we have brought our dog

3635
02:30:53,720 --> 02:30:51,840
Kelly out with us a couple times just

3636
02:30:55,280 --> 02:30:53,730
just kind of see what and there's been a

3637
02:30:56,630 --> 02:30:55,290
couple of times when she's been really

3638
02:30:57,590 --> 02:30:56,640
scared of things that we didn't know

3639
02:31:00,380 --> 02:30:57,600
what was out there

3640
02:31:02,120 --> 02:31:00,390
well in fact over at the where we go

3641
02:31:04,250 --> 02:31:02,130
Bigfoot hunting sir if I could mention

3642
02:31:06,890 --> 02:31:04,260
the name or not one of the houses that

3643
02:31:09,710 --> 02:31:06,900
we do stay at she has dogs out there

3644
02:31:12,500 --> 02:31:09,720
that will start to literally shake now

3645
02:31:14,930 --> 02:31:12,510
these are police dogs that she has and

3646
02:31:16,730 --> 02:31:14,940
they will start shaking whenever she

3647
02:31:19,850 --> 02:31:16,740
feels that there's a Bigfoot in the area

3648
02:31:23,090 --> 02:31:19,860
or Sasquatch in the area so a dog that's

3649
02:31:27,080 --> 02:31:23,100
trained not to be scared is scared yes

3650
02:31:31,130 --> 02:31:27,090
yes I have a just a small teal or not

3651
02:31:33,530 --> 02:31:31,140
line of talking just very recently due

3652
02:31:37,820 --> 02:31:33,540
to work I was doing a course on a

3653
02:31:40,820 --> 02:31:37,830
Saturday and during a break I happened

3654
02:31:43,011 --> 02:31:40,830
to overhear the course instructor was

3655
02:31:45,950 --> 02:31:43,021
talking to a gamekeeper

3656
02:31:49,250 --> 02:31:45,960
he was the head gamekeeper from a very

3657
02:31:51,440 --> 02:31:49,260
nice classic Scottish castle called favi

3658
02:31:54,140 --> 02:31:51,450
Castle it's about 50 miles from where I

3659
02:31:56,090 --> 02:31:54,150
lived it has a number of ghosts

3660
02:31:58,011 --> 02:31:56,100
associated with it which you can look up

3661
02:32:00,680 --> 02:31:58,021
in the internet but as soon as I heard

3662
02:32:02,900 --> 02:32:00,690
and heard the word ghost I literally

3663
02:32:04,490 --> 02:32:02,910
walked over and kind of said sorry I

3664
02:32:07,670 --> 02:32:04,500
couldn't help overhearing da-da-dah

3665
02:32:10,310 --> 02:32:07,680
but anyway so this gamekeeper the course

3666
02:32:11,960 --> 02:32:10,320
instructor had asked him so you know are

3667
02:32:14,270 --> 02:32:11,970
there any ghosts here or have you seen

3668
02:32:16,640 --> 02:32:14,280
anything and this scheme keeper happened

3669
02:32:18,710 --> 02:32:16,650
to say that while he doesn't he's not

3670
02:32:22,160 --> 02:32:18,720
into ghost or paranormal at all

3671
02:32:25,550 --> 02:32:22,170
he said that outside one of the rooms

3672
02:32:29,780 --> 02:32:25,560
where supposedly a green lady has been

3673
02:32:32,761 --> 02:32:29,790
seen many many times he swears that his

3674
02:32:35,251 --> 02:32:32,771
dogs his hunting dogs were ever too

3675
02:32:40,470 --> 02:32:35,261
them every single time we'll stop there

3676
02:32:41,881 --> 02:32:40,480
and stare into this from outside and he

3677
02:32:43,951 --> 02:32:41,891
said we know when there's no one there

3678
02:32:46,501 --> 02:32:43,961
they don't do it anywhere else but that

3679
02:32:48,661 --> 02:32:46,511
same place they act so you know because

3680
02:32:52,171 --> 02:32:48,671
people like gamekeepers they know their

3681
02:32:55,110 --> 02:32:52,181
dogs very well no circumstances and he

3682
02:32:56,911 --> 02:32:55,120
said they act differently and he's tried

3683
02:32:58,860 --> 02:32:56,921
to kind of debunk it himself thinking

3684
02:33:01,081 --> 02:32:58,870
you know is there anything that looks

3685
02:33:03,331 --> 02:33:01,091
like another animal in our car is there

3686
02:33:05,701 --> 02:33:03,341
anything maybe a high-pitched sound

3687
02:33:07,411 --> 02:33:05,711
humans can't hear anything but he can't

3688
02:33:10,411 --> 02:33:07,421
find the reason he just says so I'm not

3689
02:33:13,261 --> 02:33:10,421
into this but my dogs act weirdly every

3690
02:33:16,470 --> 02:33:13,271
time they're in view of this place where

3691
02:33:19,201 --> 02:33:16,480
supposedly this goes to scene so I think

3692
02:33:21,751 --> 02:33:19,211
having you guys been able to take or

3693
02:33:23,341 --> 02:33:21,761
even trying to take an animal I think it

3694
02:33:26,190 --> 02:33:23,351
sounds great because we know we know

3695
02:33:29,251 --> 02:33:26,200
various animals have can see a little

3696
02:33:31,230 --> 02:33:29,261
bit more into the visible spectrum of

3697
02:33:33,211 --> 02:33:31,240
light you know I believe it's some

3698
02:33:35,911 --> 02:33:33,221
insects can maybe see in ultraviolet

3699
02:33:38,610 --> 02:33:35,921
birds can see it ultraviolet and we know

3700
02:33:41,791 --> 02:33:38,620
that say for instance dogs can hear a

3701
02:33:44,310 --> 02:33:41,801
far greater range of frequencies of

3702
02:33:47,131 --> 02:33:44,320
sound so there's every reason to believe

3703
02:33:48,961 --> 02:33:47,141
that they can detect things that we

3704
02:33:50,520 --> 02:33:48,971
can't well there's another thing that

3705
02:33:53,220 --> 02:33:50,530
dogs can detect it and that very few

3706
02:33:56,190 --> 02:33:53,230
people even even broach is the smell

3707
02:33:58,741 --> 02:33:56,200
just a sin a smell you know how you are

3708
02:34:00,600 --> 02:33:58,751
in an area that could possibly be

3709
02:34:02,970 --> 02:34:00,610
haunted a and you get that faint smell

3710
02:34:04,621 --> 02:34:02,980
of something that's foreign and you and

3711
02:34:06,780 --> 02:34:04,631
it kind of it kind of hitched it for a

3712
02:34:09,631 --> 02:34:06,790
second and then it goes away dogs can

3713
02:34:11,461 --> 02:34:09,641
smell it for like mile the scent dogs

3714
02:34:13,591 --> 02:34:11,471
are insane that's why they're they use

3715
02:34:15,900 --> 02:34:13,601
them for tracking so I think that also

3716
02:34:18,541 --> 02:34:15,910
has to do with it to us is the sense of

3717
02:34:21,230 --> 02:34:18,551
smell with dogs so Tracy where do you

3718
02:34:23,791 --> 02:34:21,240
have maybe on your mind as possible

3719
02:34:25,860 --> 02:34:23,801
locations that you'd maybe like to visit

3720
02:34:28,291 --> 02:34:25,870
and explore in the future that you

3721
02:34:29,881 --> 02:34:28,301
haven't already been to Scotland

3722
02:34:32,070 --> 02:34:29,891
we're definitely in Scotland that's

3723
02:34:34,051 --> 02:34:32,080
that's my dream Edinburgh yeah yeah yeah

3724
02:34:35,820 --> 02:34:34,061
they Brown the underground yeah his

3725
02:34:39,180 --> 02:34:35,830
mother's from Scotland my family's

3726
02:34:42,470 --> 02:34:39,190
originally well I'm kind of a Mike but I

3727
02:34:45,060 --> 02:34:42,480
do have relatives from Scotland also

3728
02:34:46,210 --> 02:34:45,070
dogs are you gonna put them up at your

3729
02:34:48,761 --> 02:34:46,220
home

3730
02:34:50,920 --> 02:34:48,771
don't beat up and go I mean looks a

3731
02:34:53,140 --> 02:34:50,930
scary place and I haven't been there

3732
02:34:55,600 --> 02:34:53,150
myself yet but I definitely do want to

3733
02:34:57,160 --> 02:34:55,610
see that also so we're staying up this

3734
02:34:58,631 --> 02:34:57,170
meeting here they're going to travel to

3735
02:35:02,620 --> 02:34:58,641
Scotland you'll put them up in your

3736
02:35:09,881 --> 02:35:02,630
palatial estate and you of course feed

3737
02:35:13,080 --> 02:35:09,891
them wash their clothes well we'll have

3738
02:35:19,261 --> 02:35:13,090
to shoot one that morning so it's fresh

3739
02:35:23,470 --> 02:35:21,640
you wouldn't believe how many people

3740
02:35:26,020 --> 02:35:23,480
that we've we've actually got with us

3741
02:35:28,270 --> 02:35:26,030
they may be working with someone even

3742
02:35:31,030 --> 02:35:28,280
from England and if enough people

3743
02:35:33,190 --> 02:35:31,040
Scottish people tell and know how this

3744
02:35:35,140 --> 02:35:33,200
is a small animal lives on hair they're

3745
02:35:39,220 --> 02:35:35,150
up in the hills some things they start

3746
02:35:41,170 --> 02:35:39,230
doubting themselves ago maybe it is you

3747
02:35:47,500 --> 02:35:41,180
can really lead them on about this stuff

3748
02:35:48,881 --> 02:35:47,510
yeah I grew up the words that are scary

3749
02:35:52,420 --> 02:35:48,891
place to be after dark

3750
02:35:54,370 --> 02:35:52,430
there's no I'm really not afraid of the

3751
02:35:59,381 --> 02:35:54,380
words there's not much that scares me

3752
02:36:01,750 --> 02:35:59,391
honestly I'm just really I raised six

3753
02:36:03,820 --> 02:36:01,760
kids I'm just not afraid of a lot of

3754
02:36:06,850 --> 02:36:03,830
things well you probably need a rest

3755
02:36:09,700 --> 02:36:06,860
cure after that so going out to look for

3756
02:36:12,551 --> 02:36:09,710
ghosts and UFOs and cryptids God be

3757
02:36:14,620 --> 02:36:12,561
relaxing after six kids I just had one

3758
02:36:17,080 --> 02:36:14,630
to deal with here my wife and I

3759
02:36:19,870 --> 02:36:17,090
he lives in Madrid by the way now and he

3760
02:36:22,091 --> 02:36:19,880
was enough we quit while we were ahead

3761
02:36:24,160 --> 02:36:22,101
and I know different people can handle

3762
02:36:26,650 --> 02:36:24,170
things like that my late brother had

3763
02:36:29,591 --> 02:36:26,660
four kids so that's how it goes hey guys

3764
02:36:32,020 --> 02:36:29,601
this has been fun Robert could you tell

3765
02:36:33,730 --> 02:36:32,030
our listeners if you whine no more about

3766
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the stuff that you do and the stuff

3767
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3768
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3815
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